Friday, October 22, 2010

Bill Tieleman - I have lots to say about the sudden guilty plea bargain in Basi-Virk - stay tuned

Bill Tieleman outside BC Supreme Court - Lyle Stafford photo

Regular readers will note that I have not offered my opinion on the sudden guilty plea bargain deal by David Basi and Bob Virk despite covering this case for nearly seven years, starting December 28, 2003 when police raided the BC Legislature.

That will change on Tuesday October 26 in this space, in 24 hours newspaper and at The Tyee online.

Stay tuned - I have lots to say and some of it will be very controversial.

In the meantime, my 2008 article "The A to Z of the Basi-Virk/BC Legislature Raid Case" on the 5th anniversary of the raid is still the definitive listing of all the major and minor players in the biggest political corruption scandal in BC for years.

Re-reading it will raise many questions about how this case suddenly ended.


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29 comments:

Anonymous said...

There should be an inquiry and a forensic audit/investigation of this case from the premiere to attorney general, to judges-everyone! This has to be done from outside the province as there is too much corruption in this Liberal gov"t, starting with there leader! why are British Columbians so stupid to watch this corruption unfold and do nothing. Good for Gordie to use the stupidity of b.c. residents and get away with anything. Shame

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I look forward to hearing what you have to report. I am new at responding to blogs, although I have been reading them for a couple of months now. They are addictive!

I would like to share an observation I have made. I really enjoy The Straight Goods by Grant G as well as this blog and others. I point out Grant's blog because he got on the air today during the Bill Good show and I listened to their treatment of his call (nothing earth shattering here I know). The likes of BG and co. always spin and sound intellegent and superior etc. And that is the issue. They sound intellegent and superior. Whereas the blogs, that happen to actually speak the truth are not, according to the professionals today. I think Baldrey referred to us bloggers (if I can now call myself that) as "Wingnuts". The professional pundits didn't sound so professional after that comment.

So my observation. There are many of you bloggers out here. And many of you are down right talented and I believe share a common goal. So why not organize? Share and work together. You have the perfect tool to get organized, there should be few limitations on sharing with technology etc. If we could create a space for readers to offer to volunteer expertise and suggestion. Perhaps someone could offer to act as manager? I don't know how to make it work but I think we are just as professional and certainly more credible than the goofs on the radio and tv. So why not have a voice that can be heard by the masses. Let's take the advertising revenues away from the voice that supports the GC regime. Organization is the key. Wow, I feel like some kind of political radical.

But seriously, my observation is simple.

1) The government is organized and controls the message.

2) We are being oppressed.

3) While these blogs are useful as a tool to vent they are not (I believe) maximizing their potential. To combat the big machine, we need to be organized and funded. The Bills and Grants of the blogoshere cannot work endlessly for nothing.

4) We have everything we need to stand-up for ourselves, we only lack a loud enough voice.

5) Let's show Palmer the fuck that we are not "Wingnuts"(asshole). That comment by him really pissed me off.

Rafe Mair, Bill Tieleman, Grant G, and many others (again, I am new to this sorry if I left you out) are smart capable people. Lets find a way to work together and help send a strong message to the uninformed masses that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Thank you all for your hard work!

Tim

PS. I am not techno savvy so please don't ask me to volunteer on that front. I am open to offers and suggestions to help get things rolling or do whatever I can however.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I look forward to hearing what you have to report. I am new at responding to blogs, although I have been reading them for a couple of months now. They are addictive!

I would like to share an observation I have made. I really enjoy The Straight Goods by Grant G as well as this blog and others. I point out Grant's blog because he got on the air today during the Bill Good show and I listened to their treatment of his call (nothing earth shattering here I know). The likes of BG and co. always spin and sound intellegent and superior etc. And that is the issue. They sound intellegent and superior. Whereas the blogs, that happen to actually speak the truth are not, according to the professionals today. I think Baldrey referred to us bloggers (if I can now call myself that) as "Wingnuts". The professional pundits didn't sound so professional after that comment.

So my observation. There are many of you bloggers out here. And many of you are down right talented and I believe share a common goal. So why not organize? Share and work together. You have the perfect tool to get organized, there should be few limitations on sharing with technology etc. If we could create a space for readers to offer to volunteer expertise and suggestion. Perhaps someone could offer to act as manager? I don't know how to make it work but I think we are just as professional and certainly more credible than the goofs on the radio and tv. So why not have a voice that can be heard by the masses. Let's take the advertising revenues away from the voice that supports the GC regime. Organization is the key. Wow, I feel like some kind of political radical.

But seriously, my observation is simple.

1) The government is organized and controls the message.

2) We are being oppressed.

3) While these blogs are useful as a tool to vent they are not (I believe) maximizing their potential. To combat the big machine, we need to be organized and funded. The Bills and Grants of the blogoshere cannot work endlessly for nothing.

4) We have everything we need to stand-up for ourselves, we only lack a loud enough voice.

5) Let's show Palmer the fuck that we are not "Wingnuts"(asshole). That comment by him really pissed me off.

Rafe Mair, Bill Tieleman, Grant G, and many others (again, I am new to this sorry if I left you out) are smart capable people. Lets find a way to work together and help send a strong message to the uninformed masses that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Thank you all for your hard work!

Tim

PS. I am not techno savvy so please don't ask me to volunteer on that front. I am open to offers and suggestions to help get things rolling or do whatever I can however.

Anonymous said...

Per 35 page West Coast Title Search dated October 19/2010...Province is Mortgagee/Lender to property at 5064 Cambria Wood Terrace Victoria (Basi residence). However, Bill Good show purports that Basi residence is not property on which mortgage is held. Earlier today (Channel ??-- not Bill Good show) showed picture of old bungalow purported to be Basi property on which mortgage is held. (doesn't fit upscale neighbourhood of Cambria Wood residences.) Title search shows 2010 Assessment Roll Report value of Basi home $875,000 (Mortgagee/Lender - Province of BC (represented by the Attorney General) - Mortgagee (Basi) address Cambria Wood Terrace). Bill Good misinformed/or spreading misinformation (as well as other TV news show around noon today)!!!

Anonymous said...

Global TV is misinformed or spreading misinformation??
Basi residence (shown on Global TV) is 'not the property' on which the province' holds a mortgage states Bill Good. Earlier today another Global news program aired a picture of an old bungalow which was purported to be a Basi property on which the Province holds a mortgage. However, 35 page Title search shows Basi residence on Cambria Wood Terrace, Victoria (an upscale neighbourhood) to be Mortgagor/Basi address with a 2010 Assessment Roll Reported value of $875,000.00. Mortgagee - Province of BC represented by the Attorney General.

Ron said...

Your "A to Z" article was the most useful of any I had seen from any source over the seven years of that judicial travesty, Bill.

From the reaction of the CFAX radio hosts and audience, I would say the final nail is in the BC fiberal coffin on the south island (Coell and Chong).

I trust Our Maximum Leaders' tv show next week will be on the Comedy channel.

The Chong recall will commence in about 3 weeks, me'thinks.

DPL said...

Who owns the place that was rented out, turned out to be a suspected grow op, at Shannigan Lake. Bill's articles should be great reading

Anonymous said...

@5:21 & 5:41 - Google maps 'street view' is your friend ;)

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Why is it that the BC Liberals took only a few days to come up with an $18 million price tag for this complex trial's costs, yet we had to wait weeks for the price of the HST pamphlet?

Richard Hughes said...

I doubt that David Basi and Bobby Virk have been hung out to dry, that would be far too dangerous.

They have and will continue to be well taken care of by their benevolent leader.

Did they miss a meal over the last seven years? How did they support themselves?

Anonymous said...

No offense Bill but you are predictable like clockwork. I can already envision what your comments will be well in advance. They will be the same ol’ Bill Tielemen. As much as I enjoy reading your blog, it is about as one dimensional as it get’s.

Anonymous said...

looking forward to your article Bill.

In the meanwhile read Jack Knox's very funny take on the Basi-Virk "trial".

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Jack+Knox+Breakdown+system/3716113/story.html

And a very helpful antidote to the lame Sat columns from Vaughn and Les.

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:01 if you know what he is going to write about,you already know what the problem is so why don't you enlighten us,you troll.Idiotic comments like that are so transparent is that you gordo or one of the provocateurs in the basement.

Anonymous said...

The Vancouver Sun's Vaughn Palmer quotes Attorney-General Mike de Jong: "There is one person that has seen all of the evidence that could, would, should, might-have-been presented in court, and that was the special prosecutor. He signed off on the statement of facts that said these were two individuals who committed a criminal act, but did so with no involvement by another ... no instructions from any other."

VP explains: "The attorney-general was, in effect, challenging the critics to accuse the respected Berardino of corruption, incompetence or both."

So why did it take Special Prosecutor Bill Berardino SIX YEARS to exonerate Aneal Basi?

Anonymous said...

The Times Colonist's Les Leyne lets us know that "The process for ensuring potentially sensitive prosecutions avoid any appearance of impropriety was devised years ago by Stephen Owen, who was grappling with a colourful Social Credit government scandal.

He determined an outside special prosecutor should be appointed 'when there is a significant potential for real or perceived improper influence in the administration of justice.'

It was written into the legislation. It's been a guiding light ever since."


Too bad this same level of care was not applied to the lead RCMP investigator Kevin DeBruyckere and his brother-in-law Kelly Reichart. Reichart was the BC Liberal Party Executive Director at the time of the raid.

The RCMP's role in this mess is tainted from beginning to end.

Anonymous said...

The Globe and Mail's Mark Hume carries a sobbing Brian Kieran's water.

"Our wonderfully successful boutique agency, which had enjoyed an outstanding reputation and had been viewed within the industry as an organization of utmost integrity, was dead in about 12 hours," cries Mr. Kieran. At least one person, John Preissell, would dispute Kieran's rosy view of himself.

Nice how Kieran now pleads innocent and blames his lets-make-a-deal Pilothouse Public Affairs partner - the immunized Erik Bormann - for all his woes. Perhaps Kieran's new name should be Sgt. Schultz: "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!"

Anonymous said...

The worst problem is, Campbell's favorite quote, shred, shred, shred. And, the BC Liberals, lie, lie, lie. The good thing he has done is, never will BC ever have to tolerate, such an evil party again. I doubt any BC person, would want, De Jong or Hansen taking over, if Campbell steps down. There isn't one liberal Minister believable or trustworthy. I think there is enough anger at, liar Campbell's,corrupt sale of the BCR trial. It's getting pretty ugly out there. Perhaps, Campbell could be recalled. There are people, who now deny they are Liberal.

cherylb said...

Maybe everyone should forget about all the other ridings and focus all their recall efforts on Vancouver-Point Gray. That would send a pretty clear message to the Lieberals, wouldn't it?

Anonymous said...

But the real test for Campbell's leadership this month will not come from around his cabinet table.

The three-term premier will be tested in secret ballots around the province when every member of the Liberal party will be able to answer yes or no to the statement: "I endorse Gordon Campbell's leadership."


Pederson said the votes are part of the normal practice at meetings in each riding throughout the province. The meetings are also used to select delegates for the party's annual convention, being held Nov. 19-20 in Penticton.

Pederson said the results of these leadership votes are announced at the convention. He said Campbell has historically enjoyed support from more than 90 per cent of those who cast ballots.

While the meeting times and locations are not made public, he said the party sends notices directly to each member at least 28 days before the meeting is held in each riding. All riding meetings must be held before Oct. 1.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Cabinet+backs+Campbell/3504432/story.html

From the above news article it sounds to me like the vote the members of the B.C. Liberal party had on Premier Campbell's leadership is over. I wonder how many of the people who voted to support his leadership would have voted differently if the "deal" in the Basi-Virk affair would have taken place before they voted.

Anonymous said...

Horseman suffers from hoof in mouth disease: fudges facts

Al MacIntyre, Assistant Commissioner, Criminal Operations Officer, RCMP "E" Division had a letter to the editor published yesterday (Oct22) in response to a Vancouver Sun editorial - unfortunately MacIntyre's letter does not reflect the reality of the past 7 years.

Is MacIntyre proud that RCMP "E" Division's senior members allowed Kevin DeBruyckere to lead the investigation even though he had an obvious and open conflict of interest? Is MacIntyre proud of the unfounded RCMP hyperbola with which this witch hunt started? Is MacIntyre proud of the withholding of documents and investigative notes by RCMP officers? Is MacIntyre proud of an investigation that never delved into the essential essence of the crime committed? Is MacIntyre proud of his letter to the editor with its "wild" misquote of the Sun's editorial?

We will never know the truth behind this case because of state meddling and the RCMP arm of the state too often mirrored the obstructionist tone set by elected government and their cronies.

Anonymous said...

Has Brian Kieran stolen your thunder Bill of revealing all on Tuesday. His wordsmithing has hit the Vancouver Provinvce editorial pages with a promise of more to come.



http://www.theprovince.com/centre+Basi+Virk+case+speaks/3718606/story.html

Man at centre of Basi-Virk case speaks out


By Brian Kieran, The Province October 24, 2010

Problem is, how does the Province newspaper come to the conclusion that Kieran is the Man at the centre

Corrupt officials>Pilot House Consulting> Omnitrax

or

Basi/Virk > Bornman(complete with immunity deal) > OmniTrax

Has Bornman been forced to sign a confidentiality agreement or is he free to say what his part he played, and the monies that he received connecting Basi/Virk to OmniTrax?

Anonymous said...

they say follow the money but they forget to follow promotions,gary bass has proven to his political masters that he will tow the line for them ,congratulations gary the new boss for the old boys in the west.Now everything is sewn up nice and tight for tubby.

kootcoot said...

VP explains:" "The attorney-general was, in effect, challenging the critics to accuse the respected Berardino of corruption, incompetence or both.""

Okay, for starters his appointment if not improper, certainly has the appearance of being so, WHICH IS ENOUGH to make it inappropriate - and I'm not talking about the piddling donation to StoneWally's campaign - I talking about years of partnership in a legal firm with the AG, at the time, Geoff "the" Plante and Seckel, who wound up vetting documents in an questionable change of protocol for that procedure. A procedure that APPEARS to have skirted obstruction of justice and included the destruction of potential evidence - "accidentally" - right!

So as to the quote above, I accept your challenge, Ding Dong - show me why I'm wrong! But I'll quit even thinking about it for say, just a half mil! Make it a mil and I'll even call Bill not so Good (long distance) and say nice things about you.

Anonymous said...

Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic

Sean Holman has the news: Premier Gordon Campbell will announce a realignment of the provincial cabinet tomorrow. Following the announcement, the Premier will be available to media.

Anonymous said...

Time for Bill to write a book (even if it is just Cole's Notes) on the subject, perhaps an illustrated DVD.

Comments about the case are sliding from funny to just plain ridiculous and seem to go over the same things over and over again.

Time to move on to another subject.

Anonymous said...

Did Basi or Virk Transfer any property to any Family members over the last several years ?


From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:16 AM
To: b bill ; good@cknw.com ; nw ws ; nwnews ; programming com
Subject: Pt 1 of 2 ) Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp



From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:59 AM
To: weekendnews@globaltv.com
Subject: Fw: Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp

From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:45 PM
To: jmccomb ; nw ws ; nwnews ; programming com ; t t
Subject: Fw: Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp



1)Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp ?

2) Who was renting the Home when the bust was made ?

3) was the person who rented the grow opp home ever charged for the grow opp ?

steve dockeray
milner bc
canada

Anonymous said...

"From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:16 AM
To: b bill ; good@cknw.com ; nw ws ; nwnews ; programming com
Subject: Pt 1 of 2 ) Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp



From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 8:59 AM
To: weekendnews@globaltv.com
Subject: Fw: Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp

From: Steve Dockeray
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:45 PM
To: jmccomb ; nw ws ; nwnews ; programming com ; t t
Subject: Fw: Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp



1)Does Basi still own the house that contained the Grow Opp ?

2) Who was renting the Home when the bust was made ?

3) was the person who rented the grow opp home ever charged for the grow opp ?

steve dockeray
milner bc
canada"

Someone has too much time on their hands.

Old news, and most of us have moved on to follow more newer news.

E.M said...

Someone should tell Dave Basi, or His Lawyers NOT to dispose of the documents (which his conditions state He is able to go to His Lawyers to dispose of the disclosure material)

Don't be hasty- There could be alot of money in a book deal or a Movie deal, save the documents!!!!

Anonymous said...

EM....... only law abiding citizens can write the story, book form, not guys with a criminal record. But seeing as how the truth, all of truth was never received in court room #54, plea deal intervened.... as one famous person said.... "there's no book here"

kootcoot said...

To the Anon at 11:08 and 1:22 putting out crap like:

"Time to move on to another subject."

and

"Someone has too much time on their hands.

Old news, and most of us have moved on to follow more newer news.
"

That someone might be you. As far as your suggestion to "move on" ....in your and your idol Kampbell's dreams A**hole.

The plague that has been the reign of terror by Kampbell is almost eradicated and getting them out of office is merely the start - let's prosecute some actual criminals for a change instead of scapegoats.