tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post7306723592013200575..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: BC Liberals or Smart Tax Alliance enlist robot calling to conduct pro-HST voter identificationBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83361413134880640262011-06-19T17:46:28.214-07:002011-06-19T17:46:28.214-07:00Fair warning to Josh Justice... you're annoyin...Fair warning to Josh Justice... you're annoying the hell out of people with your Robo-Calls.LulzSecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-87663389036431831262011-06-09T22:06:29.887-07:002011-06-09T22:06:29.887-07:00I got one of these calls last week and assumed it ...I got one of these calls last week and assumed it was a legitimate polling company. I answered honestly. If I had known I would have been less forthcoming.<br /><br />What I find disgusting about this robot calling is that The Smart Tax Alliance spouts about all the job creation the HST will deliver but won't hire a company that uses real people earning real wages to carry out this work. The cheap SOBs.Crankypantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2485513016233052712011-06-05T23:58:09.599-07:002011-06-05T23:58:09.599-07:00WHERE IS THE STUDY?
Carole Taylor, Hansen's p...<b>WHERE IS THE STUDY?</b><br /><br /><i>Carole Taylor, Hansen's predecessor as finance minister, presided over an extensive study of harmonization during the Liberals' second term.<br /><br />She concluded that while many businesses could benefit, the tax shift would be punishing for provincial consumers and, not incidentally, for the politicians who depend on their support to get elected.<br /><br />Asked point-blank whether the B.C. Liberal government would harmonize the provincial sales tax with its federal counterpart, Taylor's reply was succinct and final: "Not on my watch."</i> - April 3, 2010 - Vaughn Palmer, The Vancouver SunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-41966639848528102582011-06-05T17:24:27.013-07:002011-06-05T17:24:27.013-07:00http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=ed1b48b2...http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=ed1b48b2-5480-493a-805b-ff46830decec&sponsor=<br /><br />Carole Taylor and Rick Thorpe. What more do you need?cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52478880217794170942011-06-05T11:52:38.855-07:002011-06-05T11:52:38.855-07:00Bill, you need a headline, or even a continuous ba...Bill, you need a headline, or even a continuous banner making it clear that voters have to vote YES to kill the HST. The question is counter-intuitive and some unattentive people may vote the opposite of what they think they are voting for. With this entry, you highlight the NO which may get people thinking yah, I'll vote no in the referendum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16919620584498094192011-06-04T18:44:25.573-07:002011-06-04T18:44:25.573-07:00Former MLA Rick Thorpe did a study of the PST v. H...Former MLA Rick Thorpe did a study of the PST v. HST a few years before Harper and Campbell colluded to bring the HST to BC.<br /><br />Thorpe concluded that the PST was the best way to go, and the HST was not in our best interest.<br /><br /><b>Does anyone have a copy of the Thorpe report?</b><br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-75771436510232776982011-06-04T14:34:59.594-07:002011-06-04T14:34:59.594-07:00I went to those meetings all the time I lived in V...I went to those meetings all the time I lived in Vancouver, and yes some candidates showed up and not always got undivided attention.<br /><br />so why would the Vancouver Labour Council endorse COPE CNDP candidates over others??<br /><br />The same thing occured in Burnaby with the Burnaby Teachers. it was their insistence that teachers there vote only for the NDP candidates and no one else.<br /><br />"If the BCGEU as a democratic organization provided funds to one particular party, I figure the manjority of the members approved, or some table officers would have been booted out of their positions."<br /><br />From accounts from friends who belonged that union, that wasn't the case. What should have been done is a per by person decision as to where an apportion of union dues goes. But that was never done. Ever.<br /><br /><br /><br />" That of course begs the question.How many companies pressure their employees to vote for a certain party and how many companies spend big bucks with no approval of anyone but themselves.I'd say quite a lot as well over 60 percent of the money to the BC Liberals comes from companies.BUt anon has lured us away from the column subject which is robot calls and how many people find them offensive"<br /><br />Actually very few. It is agains the law for employers to use duress to persuade employees to vote one or another or lose their jobs.<br /><br />I do find robot calls offensive, from ANY candidate or ANY party!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-110672758494412472011-06-04T08:06:10.217-07:002011-06-04T08:06:10.217-07:00I thought when you registered for not wanting call...I thought when you registered for not wanting calls, there is a criteria. One being that if it's political, they can call. Aren't the lieberals sayign this is not politics, but about the HST and how good it is for us, and that they arerepresenting "all" citizens"? Bull$hit. So maybe this needs to be reported to the CRTC? <br />I am so tired of all these #hit calls. I'm to the point I don't care who it is calling, I just hang up or ignore the call. It's that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-19055868521584529472011-06-04T08:01:53.346-07:002011-06-04T08:01:53.346-07:00I just hung up.I just hung up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-80282734641499761742011-06-04T07:54:08.680-07:002011-06-04T07:54:08.680-07:00Anon 10:24 and I sure must have belonged to a diff...Anon 10:24 and I sure must have belonged to a different Vancouver Labour Council. I went to those meetings all the time I lived in Vancouver, and yes some candidates showed up and not always got undivided attention.If the BCGEU as a democratic organization provided funds to one particular party, I figure the manjority of the members approved, or some table officers would have been booted out of their positions. That of course begs the question.How many companies pressure their employees to vote for a certain party and how many companies spend big bucks with no approval of anyone but themselves.I'd say quite a lot as well over 60 percent of the money to the BC Liberals comes from companies.BUt anon has lured us away from the column subject which is robot calls and how many people find them offensiveDPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-75367498980728244722011-06-03T23:02:29.793-07:002011-06-03T23:02:29.793-07:00I got called too @ 5:25; I always lie on these sur...I got called too @ 5:25; I always lie on these surveys about age and sex.<br /><br />And on most of the other answers. ^%$# em.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-84633566980605257422011-06-03T19:09:33.775-07:002011-06-03T19:09:33.775-07:00On another topic, have you seen this: http://thety...On another topic, have you seen this: http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/05/26/WikileaksAlbertaElectricity/Titannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-9345850214892747902011-06-03T15:05:21.445-07:002011-06-03T15:05:21.445-07:00I said, Oh, for &+*%%$$$$ sakes, take a long w...I said, Oh, for &+*%%$$$$ sakes, take a long walk, off a short pier. And don't come up for air.<br /><br />I am so sick of the BC Liberals b.s. The corrupt court, corrupt judges, corrupt police, corrupt Elections BC. Their corrupt politicians. The BC Liberals, media propaganda machine. That stupid call, topped it all off. I was not even civil, and I don't intend to be, towards this, BC Liberal crime family. They are absolute idiots. If they are afraid they won't win, they will cheat. <br /><br />Falcon said he didn't have to honor the vote even if, by a nano chance we did win. We have seen BC Liberal corruption, for over ten years now. What has changed? Nothing. Christy is a Campbell clone in a skirt. She uses every dirty tactic in the book, just as Campbell did. Campbell cheated and lied twice, to be re-elected.<br /><br />Good grief!!! Christy's asinine families first, is wearing a little this. What a crock. The HST has done more to hurt families, than anything else. <br /><br />Cut the crap Christy, we are sick of your lies and b.s. You are not trusted nor believed. Put your hockey jersey on, or put your umbrella photo on line, you know, your photo shoot, out side the election halls doors, on voting day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-49865690746405623212011-06-03T10:24:49.068-07:002011-06-03T10:24:49.068-07:00spent over 13 years in two national unions. In bot...spent over 13 years in two national unions. In both I was a table officer. I never heard of the NDP ever sending anything to the membership asking for support. Both unions had in their constitutions a section forbidding the executive from sending money to any party. as in any democratic association, members chose who to support , or work for on their off time.<br /><br /><br />Obviously doesn't know the BC public service unions are quite different. The Vancovuer Labour Council had always insisted on sending out materials to local members, and the BCGEU's endorsement of the NDP is legendary.<br /><br />Also consider that union funds from union memberships went to the NDP. It was not a member by member decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10952385973902283002011-06-03T10:22:08.777-07:002011-06-03T10:22:08.777-07:00Got the "Robot" call last night and just...Got the "Robot" call last night and just hung up into the first prerecorded sentence. I didn't worry about being impolite( I'm canadian, after all) because ...it wasn't a real person! Just an agency wanting my information to assemble into their polls. Same old-same old...just like before the fed. election.<br /><br />I was watching TVO (satellite TV) The Agenda with Steve Paikin who had a panel discussing the sickening overuse of the mantra "Families of Ontario" by All parties in their Ontario legislature. The concensus was how disrespectful to the voters to assume "Ontario families" wanted this or that or didn't like this or that or the most obnoxious catch phrase quoted in the Ontario media was "Families of Ontario" woke up to hear that Bin Laden had been assasinated". So Ontario Families are getting sick and tired of being the poster boy for every party going; without their input or consent!!!<br />Reminded me of what I've been hearing lately from our copy cat liberal premier here in B.C. who likes her "Families First" mantra pasted onto everything she pronounces, without consulting or researching what B.C. people in general need and want regardless of whether they are connected to an immediate family. That Agenda panel discussed at length the psychological unseen tags that are connected to the connotation of "family".<br />I don't like being used for propoganda purposes, Ms. Clark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-33412365701641778992011-06-02T23:55:21.449-07:002011-06-02T23:55:21.449-07:00"They can't vote"
That is because y..."They can't vote"<br /><br />That is because you lefties hate free speech. Money is speech, money buys robots therefore robots should have the vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-12864554273358931892011-06-02T21:54:34.607-07:002011-06-02T21:54:34.607-07:00Think about it. What sort of society are we living...Think about it. What sort of society are we living in ("democracy?") that we get these impersonal automated robo-calls to manipulate us? What kind of a version of "reality" do they present? Are they even legal? How can this type of manipulation be called a "free vote?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-54061131489876987082011-06-02T14:49:52.158-07:002011-06-02T14:49:52.158-07:00I spent over 13 years in two national unions. In b...I spent over 13 years in two national unions. In both I was a table officer. I never heard of the NDP ever sending anything to the membership asking for support. Both unions had in their constitutions a section forbidding the executive from sending money to any party. as in any democratic association, members chose who to support , or work for on their off time.<br />Anon 11:59 is blowing smoke Mind you way back when I was in the air Force we were told Vote Liberal or starve to death.<br />( different Liberals)DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-77103399046004583862011-06-02T11:59:27.704-07:002011-06-02T11:59:27.704-07:00My employer attached a piece of pro-hst propaganda...My employer attached a piece of pro-hst propaganda he had written to everyones pay stub. I threw it out before reading, before leaving work even.<br /><br />The unions do the same thing, sending NDP propaganda to its members telling them to vote for certain candidates in civic, federal and provincial elections.<br /><br />Best thing is to just throw it out before reading it, into the trash can next to the time clock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10110873698003036482011-06-02T10:48:25.083-07:002011-06-02T10:48:25.083-07:00I have never seen any government so desperate for ...I have never seen any government so desperate for money that they would spend 10's of MILLIONS of dollars to lubricate a propaganda machine. As U Titan said, "overthrow the liars".<br />I received an invite to a town hall meeting. I received 2 invites to an HST survey just yesterday. The call display indicated 604-283-1504 and 1-905-507-8885 (Ontario).<br />If you decide to participate in one of these propaganda fests, you give the Libturds an opportunity to spread their lies. DON'T PARTICIPATE.<br />Vote your conscience, but please vote the criminals into extinction this fall. Yes, THIS fall. October 24 or so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-65822620111945929372011-06-02T10:07:22.659-07:002011-06-02T10:07:22.659-07:00How about ending calls from NDP candidates during ...How about ending calls from NDP candidates during elections?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-78900501095236271932011-06-02T09:17:03.768-07:002011-06-02T09:17:03.768-07:00My employer attached a piece of pro-hst propaganda...My employer attached a piece of pro-hst propaganda he had written to everyones pay stub. I threw it out before reading, before leaving work even.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-9902516182763134142011-06-02T08:25:01.662-07:002011-06-02T08:25:01.662-07:00Smart Tax Alliance in 2010 was spouting this:
&qu...Smart Tax Alliance in 2010 was spouting this:<br /><br />"Harmonization is expected to create 113,000 jobs and lead to $11.5 billion in capital investment by 2020."<br /><br />For a full disclosure on who STA is:<br /><br />http://www.bcchamber.org/news/files/sta_news_release_june_2010.pdf<br /><br /><br /><br />Source: http://www.policynote.ca/the-smart-tax-alliance-non-partisan-really/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-75282030371115727482011-06-02T08:16:18.696-07:002011-06-02T08:16:18.696-07:00I agree with Universal Titan. Be like the Liberals...I agree with Universal Titan. Be like the Liberals, lie, lie, and lie some more. That way when the vote does happen they will be totally confused by the results as they won't have seen it coming. I can't think of a better way to slap these liars down.Grouchynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88885340170341932052011-06-02T07:43:08.256-07:002011-06-02T07:43:08.256-07:00You guys have all the fun! No one called me for th...You guys have all the fun! No one called me for the telephone town halls. I never got a robo-call. That's not fair!cherylbnoreply@blogger.com