tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post6561663254680174727..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: New Car Dealers cash in with BC Liberal budget while arts, people with disabilities, poor run overBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-85361137550052658802010-10-27T18:02:46.600-07:002010-10-27T18:02:46.600-07:00Why is there ANY tax on something that has already...Why is there ANY tax on something that has already been taxed once?<br /><br />This is just egregious double taxation plain and simple.<br /><br />How a pro capitalism government like the Liberals can justify this as fitting into their core values of less government is unbelievable and why many BC Liberal voters are becoming former BC Liberal voters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29968229913536638542010-05-31T15:40:29.830-07:002010-05-31T15:40:29.830-07:00A couple of questions:
Why have privately-sold ve...A couple of questions:<br /><br />Why have privately-sold vehicles been exempt from GST (while dealer-sold new and used vehicles have always been subject to this tax) in the first place?<br /><br />Why is it fair for individuals buying higher-priced vehicles to be charged higher rates of tax on that purchase?<br /><br />Look, I understand the "watch-dog" position you have, Bill. The whole idea of lobbyists is anti-democratic. The power of special interests over the decisions of governments is infuriating.<br /><br />However, the tax changes are fair and are streamlined with the incoming HST, a tax policy that should benefit all, long-term. Simply because these policies benefit a particular special interest, does it make them bad policies? I don't think so.<br /><br />Incidently, car dealers are, in most communities, some of the largest contributors to the causes you say the Liberals have run over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-46668199440331961282010-03-27T13:20:28.183-07:002010-03-27T13:20:28.183-07:00Don Taylor said:
"Do you not know that these...Don Taylor said:<br /><br />"Do you not know that these car dealers are not making money, yet you have this warped sense that they are getting a sweet deal since they now get to operate on a level playing field with individuals. Wow, simply shows how ignorant most of you are. By the way, I don't vote either because politics is a joke. I take care of myself and my family before anything else. Maybe you should try to do the same instead of imposing your views on others and at the same time, can't even take care of yourself. Pathetic. No wonder the majority don't care and it shows at election time."<br /><br />I submit that you have no clear idea who most commentors at this site truly are; further, your comment sounds like you are trying to impose your views on others. <br /><br />A question for you: When car dealers were making great gobs of money, did they save their money for a rainy day, or did they over-reach? Farmers and ranchers are among the hardest working business people I know, yet they would be fools if they spent money in good times on extravagant houses and vacations like most of the car dealers I have met. Yes, times may be tough for people in the new car business, but I never hear them saying that they want to pay more taxes when they are rolling in dough. Your argument that it is now a level playing field is a straw dog,: as most individuals are otherwise employed, those folks do not have the time nor the resources to purchase cars in bulk rates, at auction nor from other car dealers at wholesale prices.<br /><br />Good luck with not voting.SharingIsGoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83089327277566394512010-03-24T14:13:29.463-07:002010-03-24T14:13:29.463-07:00it would be dead scary to think that you complaine...it would be dead scary to think that you complainers are in business. Do you not know that these car dealers are not making money, yet you have this warped sense that they are getting a sweet deal since they now get to operate on a level playing field with individuals. Wow, simply shows how ignorant most of you are. By the way, I don't vote either because politics is a joke. I take care of myself and my family before anything else. Maybe you should try to do the same instead of imposing your views on others and at the same time, can't even take care of yourself. Pathetic. No wonder the majority don't care and it shows at election time. I don't drive a benzo, but do have a beamer, corvette and a smart car.Don Taylornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-7135587074719654352010-03-23T17:17:23.947-07:002010-03-23T17:17:23.947-07:00Benzo said: "...Enjoy taking the bus suckers....Benzo said: "...Enjoy taking the bus suckers. Love my Benzo." <br /><br />I do enjoy taking a bus, a trolly, or a train whenever I go to a big polluted, concrete jungle like Vancouver. You seem to have little or no respect for the others who may be trying to live responsibly on this planet - but really, life is just all about you and your toys, isn't it? Aren't you the big boy now - getting to drive shiny cars and everything!<br /><br />SIGSharingIsGoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29850210858998379972010-03-23T13:00:29.906-07:002010-03-23T13:00:29.906-07:00Benzo: Is that one of those old John Deere vehicle...Benzo: Is that one of those old John Deere vehicles from between the two wars that ran on Condensate?<br /><br />Or are you just high on BENZOdiazepine?<br /><br />Nice work Bill -G Westnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-78950062986600701252010-03-22T17:47:25.643-07:002010-03-22T17:47:25.643-07:00obviously most of you have never driven a nice car...obviously most of you have never driven a nice car and will never be able to afford to. Enjoy taking the bus suckers. Love my Benzo.Benzonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-22716989924428962962010-03-22T06:38:22.317-07:002010-03-22T06:38:22.317-07:00I'm making a point of boycotting any and all t...I'm making a point of boycotting any and all that donate to the Liberals. I've had more than enough.Willy Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-57628717021958895612010-03-21T12:31:59.359-07:002010-03-21T12:31:59.359-07:00I feel that my small contribution to democracy in ...I feel that my small contribution to democracy in BC is to nag you to get back to work after I have read the same story a few times. <br /><br />Please get back to work. (And thank you!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-3767183560903690402010-03-21T12:20:26.030-07:002010-03-21T12:20:26.030-07:00Bill:
Great article. It moved me to e-mail all on...Bill:<br /><br />Great article. It moved me to e-mail all on the list on Sayurday. Please all of your followeres, e-mail them also. We now have the power. Lets put gordo into jail, along with his associates. In government and out!Kam Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-81664568892394077882010-03-21T08:31:57.470-07:002010-03-21T08:31:57.470-07:00I don't why it is but someone has taken it upo...I don't why it is but someone has taken it upon themselves to show just how AWESOME one BC Liberal MLA is, and he's doing it by using the photographs that the BC Liberals have captured on film to promote their government good deeds. The blog site is called:<br /><br /><br /><b>Barry Penner is AWESOME!<br />Chronicling the adventures of BC's most awesome MLA!</b><br /><br /><br />".......enough about last week! It’s time for another week! A theme week! <b>A theme week based on cars!</b> And Barry Penner!<br /><br />Now that I’ve abused the humble exclamation point, let me explain. Barry Penner is the master of all things automotive. That is clear to everybody. Also, all things red scooter, red truck, and red dune buggy thingy. In fact, you could say he is the master of wheeled transportation in all its forms........"<br />************************************<br />At this page:<br /><br />http://www.barrypennerisawesome.com/<br /><br />The author of the blog has, who has chosen to remain Anonymous, has a calendar and all you have to do is click on a date to see what "happened" on that particular day, as far as the author is concerned, and if so inclined you can leave a comment.<br /><br />This week should be a doozy considering what Bill T. has written for us here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-58825878282006240562010-03-20T11:22:10.651-07:002010-03-20T11:22:10.651-07:00Thanks for this important work, Bill.Thanks for this important work, Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-59796575256840680682010-03-19T15:14:58.051-07:002010-03-19T15:14:58.051-07:00Hun gFar Low - The NDP are not in power, did not r...Hun gFar Low - The NDP are not in power, did not remove the luxury vehicle surtax - they actually introduced it when in power - and didn't introduce an HST with changes to make private sales more expensive!<br /><br />I'm happy to post car dealer donations to the NDP if you want to do the research.<br /><br />I did check now and see that the New Car Dealers gave $10,000 to the NDP - that would be 4.3% of the amount they gave the BC Liberals. <br /><br />Other dealers may have made donations but here's the kicker - the New Car Dealers and individual dealerships alone gave more money to the BC Liberals in 2009 - $282,000 - than the total amount given by all corporations to the BC NDP - $238,000!<br /><br />Nice try though.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-56350331467707475702010-03-19T14:10:04.232-07:002010-03-19T14:10:04.232-07:00typical tieleman. you don't list the donation...typical tieleman. you don't list the donations to NDP by car dealers. nice try skewer. By the way, I hate both parties and refuse to vote. blah blah blah.Hun Gfarlownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-24546111904298023452010-03-19T11:33:20.929-07:002010-03-19T11:33:20.929-07:00Drilling down to the contribution level reveals th...Drilling down to the contribution level reveals the Insurance companies are also getting a boost from the ICBC transfer of funds.<br /><br />$800m over paid by us drivers to protect and increase the market share for private insurers on optional insurance. <br /><br />Following the money we see my dollars going to ICBC and causing private insurance companies more profit and then the money ends up in Liberal coffers from their political donations.<br /><br />I should get a tax deduction for the extra I pay unfairly because it is really a forced political contribution. lolSolocanoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064398402314237510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-42721573184664710742010-03-19T10:30:30.337-07:002010-03-19T10:30:30.337-07:00Bill, you only listed donations from dealers to th...Bill, you only listed donations from dealers to the BC Liberal PARTY - what about dealer donations to individual candidates and MLAs? and what about dealer owners and their employee's donations to the BC Liberals and their candidates and MLAs? - the pool seems much deeper than what we are seeing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89482021249812299542010-03-19T01:35:21.679-07:002010-03-19T01:35:21.679-07:00Peter in Edmonton...
Why bother to bring up somet...Peter in Edmonton...<br /><br />Why bother to bring up something that the federal NDP is proposing? They are not in a position to pass anything. You should be commenting on the new car dealers and their just rewards for big Liberal party donations. Try, just once, to look outside of your rose colored glasses.<br /><br />Thanks for the list of where not to buy a car Lib party donaters. This will help me decide where to purchase a car in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-42582797269802002602010-03-18T15:44:29.050-07:002010-03-18T15:44:29.050-07:00Over the last couple of weeks people have been wei...Over the last couple of weeks people have been weighing in on the BC Liberals taking $800 million from ICBC coffers, Vaughn Palmer has gone so far to call it a hidden tax.<br /><br />While researching Hansard today I came across this February 11, 2004: Source: http://www.leg.bc.ca/hansard/37th5th/h40211p.htm<br /><br />**********************************<br /><br /> *Point of Privilege*<br /><br /> * J. MacPhail: *Mr. Speaker, you will recall that yesterday I rose and reserved the right to raise three matters of privilege. I would like to address the first one now.<br /><br /> * Mr. Speaker: *Please proceed.<br /> <br /> * J. MacPhail:* I would like to present to you what I believe to be a prima facie case for the argument that the Minister of Finance has acted in contempt of this Legislature and its primacy by violating the fundamental principle that a tax cannot be increased or implemented before it has been presented to the House.<br /><br />I would like to first refer you to a press release dated December 19, 2003, that was issued by the Minister of Finance. It is titled /Province Increases Tobacco Tax/. Within this news release the Minister of Finance announced that the tax would increase by 1.9 cents per cigarette. The increase went into effect at midnight that evening, and to date this government has collected about $6 million in that tax — that new tax.<br /><br />I want to make it clear that I am not raising issue with the merit of the tax or the increase, so the heckling of other members can stop on that issue. Instead, I would argue that the minister…<br /><br /> Interjections.<br /><br /> * Mr. Speaker: *Order, please. Order.<br /><br /> * J. MacPhail:* …violated the primacy of this House by unilaterally enacting such a change without legislative authority. The tax increase was simply announced. There was no legislation, no cabinet order, no motion to the Public Accounts Committee. The minister acted without any authority.<br /><br />For your consideration, I would refer you to the Tobacco Tax Act itself, an act that establishes that this is a tax. Section 2 of the statute clearly sets out the tax rate for cigarettes and tobacco. The rate of tax is not set by regulation. It exists as law in the Tobacco Tax Act.<br /><br />To date, the Minister of Finance has not brought this change before the House. Indeed, yesterday he didn't do it. Today he didn't do it, and he's collecting millions of dollars. He has changed a statute without support from the Legislature.<br /><br />SNIP<br />*************************************<br /><br />It seems to me that what the BC Liberals did, so many years ago, was to instruct ICBC via an OIC to collect a tax without first having put it before the Legislature.North Van's Grumpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571810726275726952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83984704815648925692010-03-17T16:18:03.276-07:002010-03-17T16:18:03.276-07:00Bill, what's your take on the proposed digital...Bill, what's your take on the proposed digital tax that the Federal NDP is pushing?<br /><br />See http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tories-fight-back-against-digital-music-tax/article1503675/<br /><br />That one would tax my MP3 player, even though I mostly use it to download BBC podcasts and shovel the money to Canadian Singer-songwriters who, gee, mainly support the NDP. Isn't that also corrupt?PeterInEdmontonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25399437835168558192010-03-17T11:38:23.443-07:002010-03-17T11:38:23.443-07:00Sorry all - as someone who wears glasses I should ...Sorry all - as someone who wears glasses I should have noticed the column was accidentally posted at a smaller type size! As you can see, it's now fixed and back to normal type.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67465431928289992192010-03-17T10:43:12.339-07:002010-03-17T10:43:12.339-07:00For Anon 4:25. I had the same problem. If your m...For Anon 4:25. I had the same problem. If your mousehas a wheel, just push ctrl and scroll your wheel. That should solve your problem.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049617811090781174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-69668086741427290682010-03-17T08:30:07.076-07:002010-03-17T08:30:07.076-07:00Fighthst.com!Fighthst.com!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-28294717198256452252010-03-16T23:29:42.352-07:002010-03-16T23:29:42.352-07:00So let’s see…if there is more tax on a car you can...So let’s see…if there is more tax on a car you can afford that is a bad thing but if there is less tax on a car you cannot afford that is also a bad thing. So really whether a tax is going up or down really doesn’t matter…when you have to may more it is bad and when someone else get’s to pay less that is also a crime. You are a piece of work Tielemen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-39810725685601078142010-03-16T18:13:26.334-07:002010-03-16T18:13:26.334-07:00Thanks Bill for bringing this to our attention.
...Thanks Bill for bringing this to our attention. <br /><br />First real estate developers, now car dealers...<br /><br />Yup, this is a real green government.Stanley B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-8462131823077946342010-03-16T17:05:21.894-07:002010-03-16T17:05:21.894-07:00Bill, why is the font so small? I need reading gl...Bill, why is the font so small? I need reading glasses. Is it because your column is long?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com