tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post4013723039351126614..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: A Tale of Two Attack Ads – how BC Liberals, Non-Partisan Association negative ads blew up like Wile E. CoyoteBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89349374012077537582011-10-01T21:25:25.736-07:002011-10-01T21:25:25.736-07:00In my review of this column, I do not have to, but...In my review of this column, I do not have to, but will make one final comment.<br />To the person at September 26 at 10:24 am, let me state clearly that the reference to Mr Gordon Wilson was not to suggest his return but the return of a new third party leader. I am looking to Mr. Chris D or Mr. Cummings.<br />As in the past, the libs are sinking and there is a need for a new party to party as the second partier on Bellevue Street in Victoria.<br />Hopefully, Mrs Clark and her Heir Falconer will be the only two libs reelected. Just picture them facing Mr. Dix and his wonderful team. They will be playing second fiddle to that new second party. Kenny likes that.<br />I trust you understand but do I care. NO!<br />Finally, A shout out to Gordon and Judy, I hope you are doing well.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-22368485339152561292011-09-26T10:24:00.112-07:002011-09-26T10:24:00.112-07:00Where is Mr. Gordon Wilson?
You've got to be ...Where is Mr. Gordon Wilson?<br /><br />You've got to be kidding. That Progressive Democratic Alliance was a one month wonder. Wilson was one of the worst party leaders in B.C.<br /><br />He and Judy Tyjabi never did pay back money the PDA was supposed to pay out. <br /><br />and to think this guy sells off his Liberal roots (yes he was leader of the BC Liberals) and crossed the floor to the NDP. The reward? A nice cabinet post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-12930880485515970962011-09-26T06:44:07.832-07:002011-09-26T06:44:07.832-07:00Today is a Monday. What will our weak Mrs. Clark b...Today is a Monday. What will our weak Mrs. Clark bring to us in the next five days. Will the Spin Docs attack? Yes, because they can not defend their Miss Takes of the past ten years. I am sure they will just attack the ten years in the 1990's. However, the gentle voters will just state the libs are desperate and have no new ideas. Stale dated is that Party. Time for for another right wing party. Where is Mr. Gordon Wilson?Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-55589366673359822282011-09-23T10:06:10.799-07:002011-09-23T10:06:10.799-07:00This also means that the BC NDP should not absolut...This also means that the BC NDP should not absolutely not set attack ads from this time forward.<br /><br />To do so will make Bill and his supporters here a huge hyprocrite. <br /><br />It will be a first for the NDP, providing a positive ad that actually says what the NDP will do themselves if they get elected to government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-40415767905837418012011-09-22T10:31:55.816-07:002011-09-22T10:31:55.816-07:00Bill,
Appreciate your perspective on this but I...Bill, <br /><br />Appreciate your perspective on this but I don't think your US consultant's checklist is worth cat spit. <br /><br />Let's look st the most successful negative ads in recent times: the federal Conservative ads against both Dion and Ignatief. Which of the four boxes do those ads tick? Ummm...none. Let's look at the anti-Hudak ads in the current Ontario provincial election. Umm...none. <br /><br />I think you need a new checklist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16051736713890473042011-09-22T10:07:16.766-07:002011-09-22T10:07:16.766-07:00An impressive following you've managed to win ...An impressive following you've managed to win over, Bill.<br /><br />Indeed. a Textbook example of constant whiners and complainers.<br /><br />Anyone every conside the fact that the NDP has come out with attack ads too or is that just "well they have to"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32908818595728448332011-09-22T06:08:20.618-07:002011-09-22T06:08:20.618-07:00Thursday already! Time flies by when having fun. I...Thursday already! Time flies by when having fun. I certainly am.I enjoy all comments whether good, bad or ugly. Some rate a direct comment such as Mr. Gaylord Perry or Chris as also known. I have reviewed three of his past comments and liked them. He is certainly no knucklehead.<br />I agree with his statement that we both do not always agree with Mr. Tieleman but we appreciate the forum he offers to us to pitch our thoughts.<br />Apparently, there is an Anonymous person that has difficult catching the ball or thoughts.Perhaps, we need some one to translate for this person.<br />Thank you Mr. Gaylord (Chris) Perry for reading the comments from Victoria. I will end this brief statement by stating the HST debate draw the writer to this column. I repeat my respect for Chris D and the two Bills.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34942834972042071152011-09-21T22:06:06.190-07:002011-09-21T22:06:06.190-07:00Bill, you pass.Bill, you pass.Parliamentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-76034391963802665612011-09-21T19:56:55.428-07:002011-09-21T19:56:55.428-07:00Is this Wednesday knight. It is raining in Victori...Is this Wednesday knight. It is raining in Victoria. Hopefully the Lotto Gods will shine bright on this loser. Note, if you do not buy a lotto ticket you can not win. Conversely, if you do not buy a ticket you will not lose.<br />I expected many mature comments on this subject and there were. Some comments do not rate a comment so I will not comment. I am pleased with Mr. Tieleman and his adult approach. Thank you for reading my comments.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-68348949869506439242011-09-21T19:21:45.608-07:002011-09-21T19:21:45.608-07:00Hey Bill, just here to show my support. Those PABs...Hey Bill, just here to show my support. Those PABsters aint nuttin.(゚∀゚)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-31193544496067895992011-09-21T17:26:09.133-07:002011-09-21T17:26:09.133-07:00To the anon who posted at 2:20, I disagree vehemen...To the anon who posted at 2:20, I disagree vehemently with your accusations of Ken in Victoria. Though his English may be inaccessible at first, I would argue that he is in fact quite a deep thinker -- maybe English just isn't his first language and in fact, we should be proud to have amongst our discussion group a Canadian who is both knowledgeable in BC affairs and still learning the language.<br /><br />I think it's really a testament to Bill's writing style and points of view that that he is able to bring together such a diverse group of individuals who share a common goal: the discourse of politics.Gaylord Perrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-127550367730954472011-09-21T14:27:08.665-07:002011-09-21T14:27:08.665-07:00Anonymous 5:02pm - what on earth are you going on ...Anonymous 5:02pm - what on earth are you going on about? Spirit bears and salmon? Did you accidentally comment on the wrong article? <br /><br />And Ken in Victoria, every comment you've posted is utter nonsense. I can't make heads or tails of anything you're trying to say. I clicked this hoping to read some intelligent comments on the subject, and all I've found is a bunch of senseless rabble. <br /><br />An impressive following you've managed to win over, Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63200313141738098162011-09-21T11:24:14.231-07:002011-09-21T11:24:14.231-07:00mousBill, if you were a bill in parliament, I woul...mousBill, if you were a bill in parliament, I would pass you.<br /><br />"I would pass you.." <br /><br />Ahem, don't go there folks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-86995809070162488312011-09-21T10:20:56.329-07:002011-09-21T10:20:56.329-07:00I doubt "Bill Siksay" is the real former...I doubt "Bill Siksay" is the real former MP either - please stop the silliness. I could eliminate all but registered posters but then most of the Anonymous folks would disappear!Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-73659379148839611082011-09-21T06:32:30.816-07:002011-09-21T06:32:30.816-07:00As is my usual practise,I review past comments.The...As is my usual practise,I review past comments.The first comment in this posting was removed as it was a fake. Good work Bill.<br />Next I want to Acknowledge the comments by the Anonymous persons on Sept. 20 at 1;41PM,1;50PM and 3;06Pm. Well written comments that all should read and consider.<br /><br />Next,a special shout out to Anon at 5;02PM on Sept 20. Your comment certainly is a great example of what comments should be. You have impressed my associates.<br />Finally to Mr. Bill S. I agree Mr. Bill T should be passed. Then lets vote him to the Senate.<br />To conclude, let me state that I somewhat attack the establishment because they are the power to be. Where possible, I will offer solutions. I have offer a Christmas present to the Meal Servers in our Province. Removal of the HST would enhance both the workers and the owners. Thank you.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-19719037999041416772011-09-20T22:44:09.590-07:002011-09-20T22:44:09.590-07:00There is always the common thread within neoconser...There is always the common thread within neoconservative attack adds.They are motivated by the fact that they have no valid alternative policies to promote. Where is the NPA's policy on a West Broadway tunnel transit route or affordable housing? Where is the Liberal's platform on regional disparities or the mentally ill? All they can muster is personal attack adds.Steve macfarlanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91641125239722933582011-09-20T22:31:36.004-07:002011-09-20T22:31:36.004-07:00I enjoy reading what others have to comment on. Is...I enjoy reading what others have to comment on. Is Henri a good commenter? Yes. Therefore, please allow this comment to be for his eyes only. Now the money per vote was to allow non main stream parties to field candidates and be rewarded for the number of supporters they gathered. Thus their participation will continue in the next election. Does Henri not wish to read comments from different sources. I do.Therefore, every voter by their vote donates to the party of their vote. To me that is Democratic.Mr Uneven Steven Crapper wishes to silent the opposition to his far right mandate.Is a 40% of votes offered a right majority? Unless there are only two parties, then majority is guaranteed.In my opinion, the Cons brand is bad news and I could not support their efforts provincially.However, I do support their participation. Let their message be considered by the gentle voters.<br />Henri, I hope I have changed your mind. Remember Kenny really like Henri.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-77993775757548066932011-09-20T19:22:56.360-07:002011-09-20T19:22:56.360-07:00Ken in Victoria said...Tuesday, 20 September, 2011...Ken in Victoria said...Tuesday, 20 September, 2011 4:25:00 PM PDT<br /><br />Why is a Mr. Harper cutting off the dollars per vote He is Stupid beyond human believe.<br /> ....................<br />Ken in Victoria, The stupid one is the person who implemented this waste of my tax dollars Craption, of pass me da pepper era.Henrinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-64836780649789074822011-09-20T17:28:39.764-07:002011-09-20T17:28:39.764-07:00WARNING - any posts attempting to pose as other re...WARNING - any posts attempting to pose as other regulars will be rejected or removed! I've just deleted a fake "cherylb" on this comment thread after checking with the genuine article. I let everyone post almost everything here, including attacks on me, but I won't put up with deliberate mischief like this.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83736861170750301492011-09-20T17:02:34.644-07:002011-09-20T17:02:34.644-07:00Perhaps Cummins voted NDP, to keep a certain someo...Perhaps Cummins voted NDP, to keep a certain someone out, rather than vote someone in. <br /><br />I have heard Christy bragging about the jobs she was bringing to BC. <br /> <br />All of this was planned by Harper and Campbell, long ago. The LNG at kitimat, is old news. The expansion of Port Prince Rupert, was done long ago, for taking in the big freighters. Many of the huge freight liners, will carry goods from China. The C.N. rail yard expansion in Prince Rupert, was also planned long ago. So was the rail yard expansion in Ashcroft BC. The Ashcroft sub, is to store the goods coming from China.<br /><br />The expansion of Prosperity Mine, was also planned by Harper and Campbell. Harper left the back door open, so the expansion could be re-applied for.<br /><br />Harper and Campbell had already set up for, the Enbridge pipeline and the dirty oil tankers from China.<br /><br />Harper and Campbell also planned, drilling oil and gas wells, off BC's coast. Watch for that one too.<br /><br />Another rotten plan for BC is, they want to log our rain forests. That's where the Spirit Bears are. There are thousands of wild creatures, who live in that rain forest. The ocean there, has our beautiful Orca and Humpback whales, and a great variety of sea life.<br /><br />There doesn't seem to be anything sacred in BC. To cut down the rain forests, is an atrocity. This will destroy, even more salmon runs. The bears, eagles and thousands of wild critters, depend on the salmon. However, greed trumps common sense every time.<br /><br />The C.N.R. yard was expanded in Prince George, for the new mines in Northern BC. Also planned by Harper and Campbell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16998262266813035592011-09-20T16:25:14.226-07:002011-09-20T16:25:14.226-07:00There have been eight comments posted as I type. P...There have been eight comments posted as I type. Pro comments against attack ads. No man, women or child seems to like them. However, the businesses<br /> paid to produce, running and publish the ads certainly do.<br />This factor suggests campaign reform is necessary. Maybe then they would not waste money or as much money. Why is a Mr. Harper cutting off the dollars per vote? He is Stupid beyond human believe.<br />The waste of tax payer money in attack ads against the elder PST did not work. Mr. Falcon man he should resign and and Mother Clark should call an Election. If the HST was cancelled at eating locations would there not be an increase in jobs. In addition. Mrs. Clark can hire more spin doctors to provide jobs. She and her band of rip off artists are going to need them.<br />Coffee (Crown Royal)break over. Good bye. Same to you Clark, Falcon & others.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34315313089983956262011-09-20T15:53:10.685-07:002011-09-20T15:53:10.685-07:00Bill, if you were a bill in parliament, I would pa...Bill, if you were a bill in parliament, I would pass you.Bill Siksaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63897821835397015722011-09-20T15:06:14.433-07:002011-09-20T15:06:14.433-07:00Ahhhhh Good Old Richard Neufeld
http://edocs.lib....Ahhhhh Good Old Richard Neufeld<br /><br />http://edocs.lib.sfu.ca/cgi-bin/Cartoons?CartoonID=6685<br /><br />What did he do as the BC Minister of Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources to deserve a comment from a Dan Murphy cartoon in the Province? <br /><br />Maybe Dan could redraw it to suit Rich Coleman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-76420187843728441982011-09-20T13:50:50.013-07:002011-09-20T13:50:50.013-07:00Richard Neufeld--ex-Social Credit, ex-Reform and e...Richard Neufeld--ex-Social Credit, ex-Reform and ex-BCLiberal MLA--was appointed to the Senate by Stephen Harper in 2008. Not only does Neufeld draw comfortable salary as a Senator, but a BC government pension as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1502420581015480362011-09-20T13:42:26.635-07:002011-09-20T13:42:26.635-07:00Unlike Mr. Cummins and Mr. Dix, Christy has manage...Unlike Mr. Cummins and Mr. Dix, Christy has managed to develop a wide smile but not much else. Her own caucus didn't bother to support her run for the leader job, except for one guy whose lackluster performance so far leaves his thinking process in doubt. Dix and Cummins may not look cute an cuddly but both make sense. Dix has in public chastised the BC Liberals for those attacks. One can only wonder how many ex socred, conservatives in BC will jump from Cristy's team. Any bets.<br /><br />Blowing money on such stupid adds is money wasted. The BC LIberal backroom boys and girls blew it this timeDPLnoreply@blogger.com