tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post3769041088709458740..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: BC could have trained coal miners here instead of importing Temporary Foreign Workers from China - look at US trainingBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-58888173066960669712012-11-01T06:55:17.827-07:002012-11-01T06:55:17.827-07:00Also John Cavanagh (Dehua Mining) was ADM for Mine...Also John Cavanagh (Dehua Mining) was ADM for Mines prior to Shimkus and Karino Brino (Mining Assn of BC) was ADM for Forests, Lands and Natural Resources in 2011. Perhaps the BC Government should send there exec staff lists to mining recruitment firms. <br />But of course I'm sure they never dealt with mining firms prior to their departures from government and they have no influence on the Jobs Minister (Pat Bell).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74498301387324521932012-10-31T17:57:12.097-07:002012-10-31T17:57:12.097-07:00e.a.f is full of it once again.
It is indeed the...e.a.f is full of it once again. <br /><br />It is indeed the union's job to set training and apprecenticships. This is what the Operating Engineers Union does quite often. The IWA used to do the same thing working with the forest companies. Also many of the building trades unions do the same thing.<br /><br />Don't be so anti-company. Be co-operative. <br /><br />A workable solution is out there.<br /><br />Whining isn't going to be it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32125370669450722652012-10-31T12:04:07.235-07:002012-10-31T12:04:07.235-07:00The mining unions can't work with the companie...The mining unions can't work with the companies because the companies are never going to want to work with the unions. With the unions there will be demands for health & safety committees. There would be collective agreements which negotiate not only salary but how workers are treated, how promotions are worked out, how vacation is allocated, how stat. holidays are paid. You get the drift.<br /><br />Now if you import a worker from China,on a temporary visa, none of the above matters. The worker could come here for a few years, knowing they would return to China with a lot more money than they would earn there. China has the highest injury & death rate in mining, in the world. I would expect that attitude to come along with the companies & miners. Not going to work well with Canadian workers, who even if not unionized, know what their rights are. <br /><br />An injured temp. worker can be put on the next jet back to china. A Canadian or American would sue.<br /><br />It isn't a union's job to set up education so government & companies can benefit. That is the job of companies & government. A union would be stupid to invest time & money in job training anyone unless the job site was going to be unionized & believe me, these China owned mines are never going to be unionized, that's why they have temporary Chinese workers coming.e.a.f.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-53732587113845938042012-10-31T08:45:25.770-07:002012-10-31T08:45:25.770-07:00We knew way back in Campbell's time. China was...We knew way back in Campbell's time. China was sending their people to school to learn English. This was so they could work our BC mines. That just went along with, Campbell shipping our mills to China, with our raw logs.<br /><br />We knew all of the roads, rail yard expansions, ports and power grids, were all for the benefit of China. China needed ways to, bring their goods into Canada. Expanded rail yards to store their goods. They need to get our resources, back to their country. Port of Prince Rupert was expanded, to be able to accept huge freighters.<br /><br />Prince George had a huge expansion of their CN yard. The seven mines, going into Northern BC, need a way to move their products. If any of those mines are owned by China, they will bring their own to work those mines too. <br /><br />The U.S. owns some of those mines. They too will bring their own workers. The U.S. won the contract, to tear down the old smelter in Kitimat. The few Canadians that did get jobs, were treated like dirt. They didn't even get safety gear. They had to breathe in Aluminum dust, while the Americans were given respirators. The American workers, were downright dirty and nasty to the Canadian people. The U.S. is building the new smelter, with their own workers, of course. People there, will most certainly be glad to see the last of those arrogant Americans.<br /><br />CSIS also warned, of China's huge inroads into Canada. BC was specifically mentioned.<br /><br />Harper is selling the tar pits out to Communist China, with all of the jobs too.<br /><br />People just refuse to listen. If you said anything, you set yourself up to ridicule. People literally jump down your neck. All the dots were there, very easy to connect. Right from the sale of the CNR and the BCR. The sale of our jobs, mines and timber, all went to Red China.<br /><br />I have said this more than once. I will say it again. If BC has a lick of sense, we will get the hell out of Harper's Canada. But no, lets stay in Harper's Canada, and be given to Communist China. Christy is giving the rest of BC, to Red China anyway. <br /><br />Didn't Terry Lake say. The BC Liberals, are keeping their doors wide open for Communist China? I mean, Harper and Campbell worked very hard, to set BC up for Communist China? Did they not? China owns BC's resources and all of the jobs, that go with the resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-60722495032586283762012-10-31T08:17:00.125-07:002012-10-31T08:17:00.125-07:00I can see from Anonymous Oct. 30 10:35's answe...I can see from Anonymous Oct. 30 10:35's answer that he has experience in being part of scab labour.<br /><br />Well good for him.<br /><br />Still doesn't answer the question as to why the mining unions just don't take the first step and start working with the mining companies to begin a training program for those who want to do the work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-45345169442292186122012-10-30T22:35:10.346-07:002012-10-30T22:35:10.346-07:00Answer:Scabs are cheaper.Answer:Scabs are cheaper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-14304950966448818752012-10-30T15:24:23.631-07:002012-10-30T15:24:23.631-07:00So rather bitch and complain like Ron does why don...So rather bitch and complain like Ron does why don't the mining and machinery operating unions get off their rear ends and work with the mining companies to train new people? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-90028116767462761162012-10-30T14:18:54.710-07:002012-10-30T14:18:54.710-07:00What would you expect from a government that harbo...What would you expect from a government that harbours Hocksteins wet dream. That is foreign slave workers at the lowest possible wage. Oh Crusty, where is your families first policy now? In the toilet with the rest of them.Ron S.noreply@blogger.com