tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post325608279432864931..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: NDP MLAs give their views on Tsawwassen Treaty and Agricultural Land Reserve exclusionBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-30548493152648111562007-10-18T17:17:00.000-07:002007-10-18T17:17:00.000-07:00Good remarks all.But I think Guy Gentner is exagge...Good remarks all.<BR/><BR/>But I think Guy Gentner is exaggerating when he say's this sets a precedent and is the end of the ALR, and that now private and public lands can be placed into the treaty making process. <BR/><BR/>"Precendent" is a term applying to court or tribunal rulings, not to politically negotiated deals like treaties. A new government, or simply a change in the policy of this government, can alter what is or is not in future treaties.<BR/><BR/>I cannot imagine how a privately owned farm in the ALR could become a treaty settlement property, not can I imagine that there are any other properties that are both owned by the federal or provincial government, and are in the ALR. The only case I can think of would be some of the old Dominion Experimental Farms.Budd Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04194826986794514558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-20265943048758359812007-10-18T12:23:00.000-07:002007-10-18T12:23:00.000-07:00Yes The NDP has also lost my vote . I will find a ...Yes The NDP has also lost my vote . I will find a new party to vote for who I can't say. Not the Liberals, not the green. But somewhere or spoil my Ballot Mr. Routely I will cost you 5 or 6 votes .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-60156934318460009802007-10-17T20:14:00.000-07:002007-10-17T20:14:00.000-07:00I voted for the NDP for around 40 years. I voted f...I voted for the NDP for around 40 years. I voted for the policies of the party. The ALR was one of the policies.I voted for policy over the smooth or not so smooth chats of the candidate. When the NDP Leader decided to jump in the same pile of folks as Gordon Campbell I said to myself. Why should I support that party any longer when a long established policy gets dropped so a small band can be handed ALR Land with no legislation to keep that land producing food for someone? Aned no matter waht james has to say, more ALR land will disappear as opthert small bands want to get land to lease out to non Indians. Why should I support a party that doesn't bother to follow their own principals? I have voted and supported some candidates that didn't hve a ghost of a chance of winning a seat, but the other party was not even considered as a place to put my vote. So the Tsawssen chief has changed her story about the proposed use of the land a couple of times and the ink isn't even dry yet. I feel sorry for the few MLA's from the NDP who actually spoke their minds on the issue of a treaty cooked up as a means to provide space for a shipping container pasrking lot. I wonder when one outspoken NDP MLA will be returning to the fold and allowed a email address? Where will a number of these folks be in a couple of years?The NDP must know that other folks claim ownership of that land as well. A overlap exists, a couple of farmers were going to court to get their land back. But it's all over folks. The NDP leader has done, as she has done a couple of times before recently. Caved in. I took to calling her Ms. Dithers for her bqck tracking. The party may see my again voting for them but not under this so called leader. James is ahown as my MLA but she is not my MLa anymore. Sorry Bill but I didn't even finish reading your coverage of what was said in Hansard. Hell I read Hansard on a very regular bais. I watch question period but today had to turn it off as the SW started getting thicker. If more folks bothered to watch what their elected members are saying and doing as parts of BC get moved around, a lot more folks would figure out that this isn't a homourable solution, but rather a means to and end. All the stories about being stewards of the land ring hollow as farm land is covered by tar to park stuff on.<BR/><BR/>Sad day in BC but hell no wonder why so many citizens simply don't trust those characters down in the recently bought from the Songhess, who didn't even own the place for a samll amount of 35 millions of dollars. I'm sure Gordo will be doing a little ceremonial dance complete with band regalia which may or may not come in handy for the nextg election show. Thanks tho Bill for passing along information. and putting up with some rather silly comments about folks attaching you personally. D.Love ex SIRAC member and treaty main table observer, Means nothing any moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com