tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post315278259245206572..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Basi-Virk Justice Bennett says some emails government claiming privilege over could be critical to defenceBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-68357011981270823402008-02-04T12:02:00.000-08:002008-02-04T12:02:00.000-08:00As hj pointed out correctly, the possible "innocen...As hj pointed out correctly, the possible "innocence" at stake here is that of Basis and Virks. The government is not on trial here, and maybe that is the biggest mistake of the whole investigation/pseudo-trial and Kabuki dance of which we occasionally get to see a flicker<BR/><BR/>dj NAILED it with:<BR/><BR/><I>"The crown is paid to seek out the truth for "the People"</I> <BR/><BR/>And the commenter to whom he was responding was dl (not al). <BR/><BR/>I loved the imaginary conversation with Premier Campbell. Clark (?) seems to be very mellow and restrained since at no point in the conversation did he feel compelled to rip off Gordo's lyin' face.kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-45605966776577631982008-02-03T11:38:00.000-08:002008-02-03T11:38:00.000-08:00So....'innocence at stake' could, maybe trump soli...So....<BR/><BR/>'innocence at stake' could, maybe trump solictor/client privilege.<BR/><BR/>But what about the stone behind this particular paper-mache wall?<BR/><BR/>In other words, what about the still held in reserve 'cabinet' privilege?<BR/><BR/>How will it fare against the concept of 'innocence'?<BR/><BR/>.<BR/><BR/>.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-17424807355389294552008-02-02T13:50:00.000-08:002008-02-02T13:50:00.000-08:00It is my belief the Defence counsel know exactly w...It is my belief the Defence counsel know exactly what that e-mails says and the only way they could know is through their clients. This explains, in a way, their continued pursuit of "documents". I do think they will want this case to go to court. It appears these documents are in the interest of the accused and just may drop the ball in someone elses lap. JoeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-73024010848136834992008-02-02T12:28:00.000-08:002008-02-02T12:28:00.000-08:00al's statement made at 7:57 PM that the "cronw is ...al's statement made at 7:57 PM that the "cronw is doing what it's paid to do, make their client look like the innocent party" is fundamentally wrong. The crown is paid to seek out the truth for "the People"- In this case, the truth does not necessarily assume "innocence".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2198059163339589712008-02-02T12:16:00.000-08:002008-02-02T12:16:00.000-08:00Mr. Premier it is good to see you and thanks for l...Mr. Premier it is good to see you and thanks for letting me in today without prior notice.<BR/><BR/>That’s okay Clark; I have some time as I just put away that book on Watergate written by that guy that...now that I think about it, looks a lot like you...you know what’s his name...<BR/><BR/>Do you mean John Dean Mr. Premier?<BR/><BR/>Yea, that’s the guy...you know it recently occurred to me that if Nixon had just burnt those tapes on the White House lawn when he had the chance he would never have had to resign. <BR/><BR/>That’s strange that you say that because I came to see you today to talk to you about the Basi / Virk trial.<BR/><BR/>I am not sure if Martyn Brown or Coleman has told you but Justice Bennett thinks that three of those missing government e-mails have significant relevance to the Basi/Virk defense and that one could show that they are innocent of the charges against them! <BR/><BR/>Yea, I can’t remember which one but one of them came running in here the other day making a lot of noise about it...I can’t remember what was said other then I got very angry and shouted at him to just get on with it...you know Clark sometimes this job just gets to you...<BR/><BR/>That’s okay Mr. Premier...can I refill you glass? <BR/><BR/>Yes, there is some twelve year old Scotch on the table over there...twelve years...how time flies...it was twelve years ago that other Clark stole the election from me by lying about the budget...and he didn’t have to resign because of that...and because of that he made me wait four more years to get this job...that #^*&%^*!<BR/><BR/>Mr. Premier, I can see that you are upset but we must talk about Basi/Virk.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Premier, you just can’t keep stonewalling on this matter...given what Justice Bennett has said it would be extremely unethical to continue to try to block the release of these e-mails by claiming privilege...people would think you had completely lost your morale compass...for gods sake Mr. Premier Basi and Virk were your own “foot soldiers” what kind of message are you sending to your own political staff by holding to the strategy of claiming privilege and thereby denying Basi/Virk of the right to finally demonstrate that they are innocent of the criminal charges laid against them. Think of the hell that they and their families have been put threw over the past four years. You owe it to them to not let it go on! <BR/> <BR/>Clark, you well know that; "I am not following it very closely...the prosecutors are doing their job, I'm sure the defense is doing their job...and I won't have anything at all to say about it until it is complete...That has been my position from the outset". Well perhaps and now that I think about it Clark...maybe I should drop the part about “...the prosecutors are doing their job...” <BR/><BR/>Mr. Premier, as I warned you last June there is a cancer in your Office...today I am counseling you that you are now ignoring that cancer at your own political peril...I know that Gary has done nothing illegal and I am sure that you have done nothing illegal so it is time to let the chips fall where they may...Mr. Premier it is now time to expunge the cancer from your Office! <BR/><BR/>Look Clark you need to leave now...I have the Terminator...I mean Governor Schwarzenegger on the phone...by-the-way can you refill my glass before you leave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-59567879722386481352008-02-02T08:48:00.000-08:002008-02-02T08:48:00.000-08:00I think it one of my favourite judgments by the WH...I think it one of my favourite judgments by the WHL's Calgary Cowboys former counsel - as he was once among other things ;) A tremendous, though strangely underrated, jurist and now fearless public inquiror.<BR/><BR/>Mme. Justice Bennett is not likely to have thrown the term around. Evidence that can provide a potentially complete defence and is not otherwise available to the accused is a pretty high test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-84298345599595980322008-02-02T08:39:00.000-08:002008-02-02T08:39:00.000-08:00Bill I just read your new story. This takes this ...Bill I just read your new story. This takes this thing to another level completely! It is of significant importance when ajudge deems something so critical she states "innocence is at stake". Your legal research to explain this term is appreciated.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52622005242635397162008-02-02T07:20:00.000-08:002008-02-02T07:20:00.000-08:00IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE GORDO RETIRE TO THAT CONDO...IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE GORDO RETIRE TO THAT CONDO IN MAUI, WITH A "SPECIAL FRIEND" AND A HIGH BALL . . . AND THIS MAY FINALLY START THAT BALL ROLLINGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-5952926091344404022008-02-01T21:55:00.000-08:002008-02-01T21:55:00.000-08:00Bill,The fact that the Judge herself has reviewed ...Bill,<BR/><BR/>The fact that the Judge herself has reviewed these emails and in her own words raised the "innocence at stake" argument bodes well for the defence.<BR/><BR/>Until Thursday, I cannot recall the defence using the term "innocence at stake". <BR/><BR/>I believe that they must have an idea what's in those emails and that explains why they have been chasing after disclosure so dilligently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-36809047543198272402008-02-01T19:57:00.000-08:002008-02-01T19:57:00.000-08:00BillYour explanation of some of those emails is ce...Bill<BR/>Your explanation of some of those emails is certainly helpful. I hope some others on this and other sites site read the Supreme Court of Canada's ruling . It's too bad the information has to be dragged out of the crown especialy when the Premier went on and on about transparency in this case. Mind yu the cronw is doing what it's paid to do, make their client look like the innocent party, I look forward to the case actually getting underwayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com