tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post2433711697341535235..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Fight HST citizens Initiative petition reaches 10% minimum in all 85 BC ridings! Over 600,000 voters say No to HST!Bill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25145136607909756042013-07-30T18:38:57.734-07:002013-07-30T18:38:57.734-07:00We are a bunch of volunteers and starting a new sc...We are a bunch of volunteers and starting a new scheme in our community.<br />Your website offered us with valuable info to work on.<br />You have done an impressive process and our whole neighborhood can be thankful to you.<br /><br /><br />Feel free to surf to my web page <a href="http://choicefinancial.rollr.com/" rel="nofollow">used cars financing</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-68624902146614771272010-06-02T09:09:17.605-07:002010-06-02T09:09:17.605-07:00and if any one is complaing about the outcome of t...and if any one is complaing about the outcome of the petition, which is the HST will still be here, and that bill will not nessesarily be introuced into the legislature, blame the NDP. They brought in the referendum and initiative legislation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-31368825069177073982010-06-02T07:22:56.481-07:002010-06-02T07:22:56.481-07:00Thanks for that Bernard. I know how much you like ...Thanks for that Bernard. I know how much you like this Grab. But I agree with Norman that it was wrong to shove this down our throats.<br />To others here, this tax is constitutionally wrong. BC has the right to sollect taxes within their borders for their provincial programs. I have not seen a Constitutional Amendment taking away this right.<br />For others wondering about the 40% for recall. It is 40% signed in 60 days. For the purposes of the HST that number is symbolic in that, Theoretically, if a riding were to reach that goal in the HST they could show the MLA in that riding that it is possible to get the same numbers in a Recall vote. And from the number of past liberal supporters I have encountered that will be very possible in my riding. Which by the way was the first to go over the 40% number. With still 4 days to go.Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-3450751665782735092010-06-01T20:01:03.746-07:002010-06-01T20:01:03.746-07:00Call me paranoid, but I am. Vaughn Palmer had an ...Call me paranoid, but I am. Vaughn Palmer had an interesting post on his blog this morning where he basically repeated what the Gordonator said yesterday in QP. Needless to say, he didn't look so good. Now it appears that Palmer's blog isn't available online.<br /><br />Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-62910892074842031412010-06-01T16:51:48.392-07:002010-06-01T16:51:48.392-07:00Reading through Hansen's G&M q&a
10:0...Reading through Hansen's G&M <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/finance-minister-colin-hansen-took-your-questions-on-the-hst/article1584818/" rel="nofollow">q&a</a><br /><br />10:04 Colin Hansen: <i>"I have never said it will be revenue neutral _ another on of the myths! I have pointed out that we will collect about the same $ under HST as we collect under PST</i><br /><br />So... What does "revenue neutral" mean to you?<br /><br />-----<br /><br />10:07 [Comment From Rick] "...<i>releasing publicly the full details and dates of correspondence between your ministry and the feds on this issue</i>..."<br /><br />10:08 Colin Hansen: <i>"This info has already come out thro FOI".</i><br /><br />10:12 Justine Hunter: "<i>Mr. Hansen - The correspondence you referenced that came out through freedom of information was largely blanked out. It's not the same as the 'full details' that Rick had asked for. A number of media outlets - including The Globe and Mail - have been trying to get more detail through another freedom of information request for many months. Why not release the information?"</i><br /><br />-----<br /><br />No questions or comments on how the BC Liberals 'hid' the ballooning deficit for the election month - how convenient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2759264107040010812010-06-01T16:06:41.801-07:002010-06-01T16:06:41.801-07:00Anon 1.43 mentions the issue of numbers needed for...Anon 1.43 mentions the issue of numbers needed for a recall, but lots of people said nobody could get 10 percent in every riding. There are a few Liberals in position by a limited amount of votes. Heck in one Ministers riding the numbers collected so far is huge. Never say never.<br /><br />Mathematically it is easier to get 10% in a riding, than 40%. <br /><br />But given the success of this is<br />unprecendented, but it is VanderZalm rather than the NDP that is running this show.<br /><br />One wonders how this effort would have played out for the NDP in last year's election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-68739638423471683822010-06-01T14:59:11.589-07:002010-06-01T14:59:11.589-07:00Anon 1.43 mentions the issue of numbers needed for...Anon 1.43 mentions the issue of numbers needed for a recall, but lots of people said nobody could get 10 percent in every riding. There are a few Liberals in position by a limited amount of votes. Heck in one Ministers riding the numbers collected so far is huge. Never say never.<br />The volunteers working so far must be congratulated for doing the seemingly impossible. The rantings of Gordo and Hansen certainly brings in more signatures.Keep talking Gordo and the folks will continue to line up. They are angry and don't like being lied to.DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32365409356222932722010-06-01T14:15:58.704-07:002010-06-01T14:15:58.704-07:00Anon, 11:44 I think we all realize that's tax...Anon, 11:44 I think we all realize that's taxation is a good thing, when applied fairly it provides us with the social progress that we all aspire to. This tax is regressive and illegal (in that it is taxation without representation, giving away to the Fed our ability to adjust the tax or scrap it.)Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049617811090781174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1972749011872922342010-06-01T14:10:47.054-07:002010-06-01T14:10:47.054-07:00Huge vote of thanks Bill - and a tip of the hat fo...Huge vote of thanks Bill - and a tip of the hat for that other 'Bill' too.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />James King,<br />VictoriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83637864768027716992010-06-01T13:43:32.991-07:002010-06-01T13:43:32.991-07:00"And it looks like the groundwork is being la..."And it looks like the groundwork is being laid for successful recall campaigns in at least a few ridings. "<br /><br />Well maybe. The recall groups will have to start right at the beginning, they CANNOT use the petitions obtained for the anti-HST. <br /><br />Only one recall got close to starting, and it's very difficult to get 40% of the people in one riding to agree to recall. If they did, the MLA being recalled can still run in the by-election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67907514246907799022010-06-01T11:44:47.623-07:002010-06-01T11:44:47.623-07:00And it looks like the groundwork is being laid for...And it looks like the groundwork is being laid for successful recall campaigns in at least a few ridings. <br /><br />I am still not convinced fighting all taxes at all times is a 'good' idea, but putting an end to BC's largest ever tax shift from corporations onto citizens is definitely laudable.<br /><br />I never thought I'd say this, but ...<br /><b>way to go Bill Vander Zalm!</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-58542813188051995302010-06-01T11:29:36.079-07:002010-06-01T11:29:36.079-07:00Hey Bernard. The issue is not merely HST, the cons...Hey Bernard. The issue is not merely HST, the consumption tax. Some of us object to making the tax system ever more regressive and, even more, the dishonesty involved in establishing a major tax change with no public consultation.<br /><br />Campbell's Liberals are willing to submit certain subjects to a public process but not others. They should accept the principle and apply it universally, not merely for the subjects of little import.Norm Farrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06762889793990336381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27397626712098974082010-06-01T11:04:07.579-07:002010-06-01T11:04:07.579-07:00Just imagine if could do the same to fight Hunger ...Just imagine if could do the same to fight Hunger in Canada?<br />http://www.cafb-acba.ca/main2.cfm?id=10718629-B6A7-8AA0-6D9B9CE378DE06DApiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933293183247282770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88094684799404736562010-06-01T09:35:42.358-07:002010-06-01T09:35:42.358-07:00So Bill Tieleman started it, and the attraction en...So Bill Tieleman started it, and the attraction ends up being Bill VanderZalm.<br /><br />What's wrong with that picture? Where was the NDP (other than being on the street being canvassers?) They really messed up an opportunity.<br /><br />If the BC Liberals don't repeal the HST, then it will be up to the NDP to do that. The HST will be on their side of the rink, and they'll have to stickhandle it, to send it over the glass and into the crowd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63664680101089258672010-06-01T08:36:51.598-07:002010-06-01T08:36:51.598-07:00As much as I like the HST, you guys have won. Yo...As much as I like the HST, you guys have won. You all deserve credit for achieving what people have said for years was impossible.<br /><br />Congrats to you and the rest of the team.Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951619465188564252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-45514292520024760912010-06-01T08:31:17.906-07:002010-06-01T08:31:17.906-07:00Bill, your petition has caused a meltdown in at le...Bill, your petition has caused a meltdown in at least one Victoria ministry. Colin Hansen made an effort to defend against the "misinformation" spreaders on the Globe and Mail's website. He failed and it was not pretty. Perhaps a career selling flags seems more appealing.<br /><br />I did a little deconstruction here:<br /><br />http://northerninsights.blogspot.com/2010/05/yes-but.htmlNorm Farrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06762889793990336381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-4020096485944917372010-06-01T07:03:19.780-07:002010-06-01T07:03:19.780-07:00As a canvasser Bill, let me add that we shouldn...As a canvasser Bill, let me add that we shouldn't sit back on our butts now. There is still a lot of work to do in places that are hard to access.<br />We need to show Campbell that the 85 or 90% in the polls are out there to put their names to this.<br /><br />Canadian History is being right here in Beautiful British Columbia.Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.com