tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post2068275013733194618..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Susan Heyes loses right to appeal to Supreme Court of Canada - her victory for small businesses hurt by Canada Line construction on Cambie Street overturned permanentlyBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-37391140485014185232011-11-11T08:43:48.129-08:002011-11-11T08:43:48.129-08:00After reviewing comments in this article,I note th...After reviewing comments in this article,I note the following. A certain mining company received $30million for lost of their rights and profits. Their case was tried in private by the liberals. Ms. Heyes was denied justice and taxpayer were denied justice in the mining company case.Ken in Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629652826082135743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-28213516307662105852011-11-03T15:31:20.466-07:002011-11-03T15:31:20.466-07:00In answer to a question privately sent, a lawsuit ...In answer to a question privately sent, a lawsuit by other Cambie Street merchants separate from Susan Heyes' initial action continues to the best of my knowledge. This decision may have a negative effect on that lawsuit.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-87868187935872070552011-11-02T20:33:37.003-07:002011-11-02T20:33:37.003-07:00I am amazed and sickened that some posters here co...I am amazed and sickened that some posters here condemn Heyes efforts. This indicates two things to my mind : many people have been thoroughly brainwashed by the Corporate agenda; and many people have no respect or understanding of the importance of small business to the economy. I wonder how many people are aware of the simple fact that it is SMALL and MEDIUM size businesses that create the most jobs and generate the most economic activity. Also for those complaining about Heyes being after "our taxes", have you ever considered how much in public taxes go towards corporate bailouts? Here's a hint : it's in the billions ... For my part this re-enforces my resolve to boycott big business at every opportunity on the one hand, and to take governments to task for their injustices in every way possible. The lies must stop ! -chuckleschucklesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-31127133103012897242011-10-26T20:05:16.295-07:002011-10-26T20:05:16.295-07:00I have removed some more comments previously poste...I have removed some more comments previously posted. I am not interested in individuals carrying on their personal battles with others here - battles that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.<br /><br />Stick to the content here, don't belittle people for no reason but personal spite and don't waste readers' time - there are big issues at stake - please focus.<br /><br />If those whose posts were deleted want to contact me, my email is on my profile or send a comment starting with NOT FOR PUBLICATION and it will not be posted.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72810148750291599792011-10-26T12:00:43.153-07:002011-10-26T12:00:43.153-07:00My position is clear - this is a miscarriage of ju...My position is clear - this is a miscarriage of justice and the "Supreme Court of Canada should have heard the appeal. Anytime a BC Supreme Court justice agrees with a small business fighting a huge international conglomerate, it's worth the top court hearing arguments and making its decision."<br /><br />The Court decides on the merits of the appeal, not politics. The premise of this discussion is obviously a political one, rather than one solely based on legal aspects and merits. <br /><br /><br /><br />Obviously, by siding with the Appeal Court of BC, the Supreme Court has effectively ruled against Susan Heyes.<br /><br />Not so. That opinion is a simplistic default. Heyes initially won her case. but was overturned by the Court of Appeal. She did not accept that decision and decided to go ahead to file with the Supreme Court of Canada.<br /><br />What if she lost her petition to the Supreme Court after the case was heard?<br /><br />Most likely words of "injustice" would be pixelled into this blog.<br /><br />This blog commentary has nothing to do with legal aspects, but more of the same "Big Bad Liberals" mantra.<br /><br />Supposed this chain of events happened when the M-Line was being built?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-46919670068772004482011-10-25T13:14:19.185-07:002011-10-25T13:14:19.185-07:00Thanks again for comments - but I am still not pos...Thanks again for comments - but I am still not posting some that are obvious a single person or group trying to trash Susan Heyes, not debating the issue.<br /><br />Fair enough to agree with the Supreme Court of Canada but making specious claims about Susan's motivation, personal finances or other allegations is not going to get published here. <br /><br />BC Mary - I always appreciate your posts and yes, we do pay a high price for freedom of speech at times - and as you can see, some of the anonymous sluggos have it in for you as well.<br /><br />My position is clear - this is a miscarriage of justice and the Supreme Court of Canada should have heard the appeal. Anytime a BC Supreme Court justice agrees with a small business fighting a huge international conglomerate, it's worth the top court hearing arguments and making its decision.<br /><br />Obviously, by siding with the Appeal Court of BC, the Supreme Court has effectively ruled against Susan Heyes.<br /><br />That means the only way change will happen for compensation of those affected by pubic projects is through provincial or federal legislation.<br /><br />That's a tough road to hoe but it must eventually be done.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74227376102278069492011-10-25T12:46:37.439-07:002011-10-25T12:46:37.439-07:00In my opinion, this act is just
Morally wrong and ...In my opinion, this act is just<br />Morally wrong and should be repealed.<br /><br />Going a bit further and suggesting<br />Any remunerations for the overly<br />Yelping BC government is just inane.George Stewartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34953435720417849942011-10-25T11:47:41.457-07:002011-10-25T11:47:41.457-07:00Jeez, Bill, we pay a heavy price for free speech. ...Jeez, Bill, we pay a heavy price for free speech. <br /><br />Well, that is the way it is. Free speech is just that, free speech.<br /><br />"I can't help wondering why people (usually Anonymous) rush forward with such cruel, throat-slitting assaults. Miserable creatures. If they are only trying to hurt, why do you put up with it?"<br /><br />Because he is smart and knows what free speech is all about.<br /><br /><br />You run a good, important blog. Most of us know that this requires lots of smarts, lots of experience, and a tonne of good faith. Gentle soul that I am, I would enjoy seeing you smack down somebody with nothing better to do with his life than write Comment #1 ... Oct. 20 comment at 6:12. <br /><br />What would be the purpose? If Bill's blog is a conveyor of free speech, why the nastiness from you BC Mary?<br /><br /><br /><br />Just askin' ... would you consider deleting comments which add nothing constructive to the discussions? <br /><br />That would be censorship. You can do that on your own blog.<br /><br />Or what is supposedly a blog, and not much more than mainstream media news snips.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-38344717381124122502011-10-25T11:41:35.543-07:002011-10-25T11:41:35.543-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-13855938131396846422011-10-25T11:34:56.926-07:002011-10-25T11:34:56.926-07:00Heyes was wronged. And Charter Nullifiers wronged...Heyes was wronged. And Charter Nullifiers wronged her, and it is Seditious to nullify the CCRF. The 99.7% who pay for garbage delivered by court-officers, need to hand those parasites a dose of referendum power. Ask Tieleman-Van Derzam, if you think that won't drive fear into elite spines.<br /><br />BTW: City Caucus blog reports on Gregor's use of cops for political purpose. You judge.<br />http://www.citycaucus.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-75555807061161881492011-10-25T07:41:56.791-07:002011-10-25T07:41:56.791-07:00BTW- I still have a tremendous respect for the wor...BTW- I still have a tremendous respect for the work BC Mary does, but I'm just aghast at censoring because of a man's name. Seemed silly at the time and still seems silly. Kudos to Mr Teileman for NOT censoring.Willy Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88339834346703711172011-10-25T07:13:12.016-07:002011-10-25T07:13:12.016-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Willy Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25002522034467953302011-10-24T13:48:44.390-07:002011-10-24T13:48:44.390-07:00.
Jeez, Bill, we pay a heavy price for free speec....<br /><br />Jeez, Bill, we pay a heavy price for free speech. <br /><br />I can't help wondering why people (usually Anonymous) rush forward with such cruel, throat-slitting assaults. Miserable creatures. If they are only trying to hurt, why do you put up with it? <br /><br />You run a good, important blog. Most of us know that this requires lots of smarts, lots of experience, and a tonne of good faith. Gentle soul that I am, I would enjoy seeing you smack down somebody with nothing better to do with his life than write Comment #1 ... Oct. 20 comment at 6:12. <br /><br />Differing points of view are one thing. But sheer nastiness drags us all down. <br /><br />Just askin' ... would you consider deleting comments which add nothing constructive to the discussions? <br />.BC Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16597928683019021273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72237522074379297732011-10-24T12:03:41.658-07:002011-10-24T12:03:41.658-07:00"When you look back at Harper's political..."When you look back at Harper's political past, in 1989...No wonder Canadians are losing all their rights. No wonder we are losing our democracy. That the media are muzzled, and other offenses of Harper's dictatorship. The dots are now easy to connect."<br /><br />Harper's political past as an MP does not include 1989. The federal Liberals got in 1993-2004, so funny how no mention of them.<br /><br /><br />"The unjust ruling against Susan Heyes, shows just how corrupt the BC judicial system is."<br /><br />She went through the process, and actually won, until Translink won on appeal. Learn how the system works.<br /><br />"I am not going to list all of the judicials corrupt rulings. I would be sitting here all day."<br /><br />Good. <br /><br />Even a grade seven student, can see through the corruption in this province.<br /><br />Let us know when you pass Grade 6 and enter Grade 7 next year if you learned exactly how things in government and the judiciary work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-4382697189345184952011-10-24T10:26:46.344-07:002011-10-24T10:26:46.344-07:00When you look back at Harper's political past,...When you look back at Harper's political past, in 1989...No wonder Canadians are losing all their rights. No wonder we are losing our democracy. That the media are muzzled, and other offenses of Harper's dictatorship. The dots are now easy to connect.<br /><br />The unjust ruling against Susan Heyes, shows just how corrupt the BC judicial system is. We also saw their corruption, regarding Campbell's theft and sale of the BCR trial. <br /><br />I am not going to list all of the judicials corrupt rulings. I would be sitting here all day. <br /><br />Even a grade seven student, can see through the corruption in this province.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-6104396321396768092011-10-24T10:17:17.114-07:002011-10-24T10:17:17.114-07:00"Anon 1:26 p.m. - actually, I was a consultan..."Anon 1:26 p.m. - actually, I was a consultant on the Millenium Line and also worked with BC Transit on several projects in the late 1990s."<br /><br />NDP patronage no doubt (BC Transit was set by the NDP and the M-Line was an NDP project despite Glen Clark initially not wanting Skytrain and wanted to start an LRT line down Broadway instead. <br /><br />"But I am unaware of any lawsuits launched during that period that got to the court stage. "<br /><br />There was quite simply, none filed.<br /><br /><br />Susan Heyes has shown dogged determination and had she succeeded, would have set a legal precedent for Canada on compensation.<br /><br />That's the problem. Eaxcly how much compensation does there need to be. RAV erred by switching construction methodology after it was determined a tunnel underground was the way to go, but was found to be expensive. <br /><br />Heyes had the right to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada in the aspect of rights to file her case, but the SCC does turn away cases on its merits. So she did undertake the right of seeking appeal. <br /><br /> Hopefully someday governments and contractors will realize that ruining someone's business is inexcusable and should not be permitted.<br /><br />Might want to be careful there. If the NDP goes ahead with a large project and does NOT provide compensation for affected businesses , then what would you do Bill?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27585985881879130772011-10-23T15:39:52.979-07:002011-10-23T15:39:52.979-07:00"I believe anyone significantly disrupted by ..."I believe anyone significantly disrupted by public construction projects deserves compensation.<br /><br />But I am unaware of any lawsuits launched during that period that got to the court stage."<br /><br />So if no lawsuits are launched, all is fine and dandy. If it works for China...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67719924274861849232011-10-23T14:45:28.541-07:002011-10-23T14:45:28.541-07:00Anon 1:26 p.m. - actually, I was a consultant on t...Anon 1:26 p.m. - actually, I was a consultant on the Millenium Line and also worked with BC Transit on several projects in the late 1990s.<br /><br />I believe anyone significantly disrupted by public construction projects deserves compensation.<br /><br />But I am unaware of any lawsuits launched during that period that got to the court stage. Susan Heyes has shown dogged determination and had she succeeded, would have set a legal precedent for Canada on compensation. Hopefully someday governments and contractors will realize that ruining someone's business is inexcusable and should not be permitted.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-66086535587947892442011-10-23T13:26:33.574-07:002011-10-23T13:26:33.574-07:00Where was Bill when the Millenium Line was being b...Where was Bill when the Millenium Line was being built? Why wasn't he screaming for compensation to be paid to disrupted businesspeople then? Oh right, it's because it was being built by his buddy Glen Clark.<br /><br />Carry on folks, nothing to see here...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-62846425165721228462011-10-23T09:30:37.984-07:002011-10-23T09:30:37.984-07:00Look at who appoints these judges. Surely no one i...Look at who appoints these judges. Surely no one is surprised at the outcome?<br /> <br />cherylbThe real cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-37195802806134803032011-10-22T23:05:23.037-07:002011-10-22T23:05:23.037-07:00"Longer commute times and unnecessarily uncom..."Longer commute times and unnecessarily uncomfortable conditions."<br /><br />Are you aware of how ridiculously slow - and uncomfortable - the Granville B-Line was during peak times?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89401317258154474862011-10-21T21:52:43.527-07:002011-10-21T21:52:43.527-07:00Anonmmous 12:00pdt. Your a sick puppy. I hope one ...Anonmmous 12:00pdt. Your a sick puppy. I hope one day your rights are smashed and see how you feel. By the way, I think you not need come here for sympathy.RonSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-45727987688466971742011-10-21T18:27:19.835-07:002011-10-21T18:27:19.835-07:00The Seattle LRT line had a $50 million compensatio...The Seattle LRT line had a $50 million compensation package for merchants affected by LRT construction. Portland also offer compensation for shop owners, but in Portland shop owners welcome light rail as business increases about 10% along new LRT/streetcar lines!<br /><br />Business owners in the Lougheed Mall area of the Millennium Line were compensated, but those who were had close connections with Victoria.<br /><br />The Canada Line is not profitable, but is subsidized by the taxpayer, for if it were profitable, you would have a rush of transit planners from around the world come to Vancouver to see the miracle!<br /><br />No rush - no miracle.<br /><br />Sorry, it is just more TransLink BS, that we have all become accustomed to.<br /><br />As for the Canada Line being extended, it is not cost effective to do so at about $100 million or more per km. to build. You can extand any transit system you want if you throw enough money at it.<br /><br />Take away the bus riders (35,000) and the YVR workers who drive and park on Sea Island and travel free (The Canada Line is free on Sea Island) from Templeton Station to YVR for free (15,000) and multiple trips by U-Pass holding students, the Canada Line has attracted relatively few new passengers.<br /><br />Please remember most passengers board the Canada Line twice, so those traveling for free or forced to transfer from buses account for about 100,000 boarding or more!<br /><br />This has not gone unnoticed by transit experts abroad.<br /><br />As it stands Susan Heyes was screwed royally by a dishonest and devious government, through their agents TransLink and SNC Lavalin; and would not been allowed to happen in most democratic countries.Donaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-81517630800555070682011-10-21T17:42:20.032-07:002011-10-21T17:42:20.032-07:00I apologize for accidentally deleting an Anon post...I apologize for accidentally deleting an Anon posting - it has been reposted.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63022912124270459562011-10-21T15:48:55.632-07:002011-10-21T15:48:55.632-07:00This is why the "Occupy Vancouver" prot...This is why the "Occupy Vancouver" protest is so important. It is time for this corporate greed to stop and the courts must be fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com