tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post1771743873042355193..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: BC Liberal-linked businesses file lawsuit to block Fight HST citizens Initiative; Fight HST obtains 705,643 signatures on petitionsBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-22149211182239473902010-07-02T08:32:06.792-07:002010-07-02T08:32:06.792-07:00"The Law Society of BC study committee has lo..."The Law Society of BC study committee has looked at the subject and think Geoff Plant will win easily. Well done mate."<br /><br />Amazing talent. Someone knows how he BC Law Society knows what the outcome of a BC Liberal Leadership will be. Wonder what the BC Law Society will predict for the NDP Leadership? Moe Sihota wins?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83507204706401054012010-07-01T19:34:39.107-07:002010-07-01T19:34:39.107-07:00The Law Society of BC study committee has looked a...The Law Society of BC study committee has looked at the subject and think Geoff Plant will win easily. Well done mate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-40153940782266366492010-06-30T21:42:21.372-07:002010-06-30T21:42:21.372-07:00"I think it's now safe to say that Geoff ..."I think it's now safe to say that Geoff Plant will not be the next leader of the BC Liberal party."<br /><br />Geoff Plant couldn't lead a group of people to canvass a neighbourhood block that is flat and perfectly rectangular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71332822290112974852010-06-30T20:43:38.988-07:002010-06-30T20:43:38.988-07:00I think it's now safe to say that Geoff Plant ...I think it's now safe to say that Geoff Plant will not be the next leader of the BC Liberal party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61949595825679946082010-06-30T19:55:59.070-07:002010-06-30T19:55:59.070-07:00Read the Tyee. Good for Bill Tieleman articles and...Read the Tyee. Good for Bill Tieleman articles and those written by Will McMartin. Some of the rest of the Tyee is okay, much of the rest is entertainment. 90% bullshit. The comments from posters in that thing are 98% bulshit. But its entertaining. <br /><br />Don't know who this BC Boy is and don't fuckin' care. We got enough problems with Gordon Campbell and our wimped out leader Carole James to start worrying about someone who contributes to a third level online paper that others don't like.<br /><br />Let's just see where this petition goes now and then go from there.<br /><br />Hopefully VanderZalm will end his publicity crap and let the NDP do what it is supposed to do, and that is be the real opposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52960627334067503682010-06-30T13:24:03.346-07:002010-06-30T13:24:03.346-07:00I see the old BC Boy is back again - banned at Tye...I see the old BC Boy is back again - banned at Tyee one more time I guess.<br /><br />You'd think you would have the actual balls to post your 'made up' name here at Bill's.Phony alertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27986903744189717142010-06-30T12:02:02.589-07:002010-06-30T12:02:02.589-07:00The right wing supporters are spending time on thi...The right wing supporters are spending time on this blog so they must be worried.Grocers are complaining that they don't know what to tax, cafe's the same. I really wonder if Gordo thought this thing through before rushing out to get some money from Ottawa? His little blurb in the Times Colonist Wednesday morning shows us he is getting very concerned.DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-57022942485104036982010-06-30T11:57:23.069-07:002010-06-30T11:57:23.069-07:00It is the combination, of the budget with the HST....It is the combination, of the budget with the HST. The two of them together, is beyond the citizens ability to pay. A very poorly planned budget, and. an equally poorly planned HST, will put people out of their homes. The budget: 6% hike in home heat. Hydro graduates to 33%. Our "new" carbon tax, 4.45 and another hit July 1st. Phone and cable, has the HST applied, and so does, everything from a can of paint to a nail file. What great day in the morning, has anyone heard, Campbell and Hansen, tie the HST and the budget together? Where the budget doesn't nail you, the HST does. Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals, are the most underhanded, sneaky, deceitful government, in the history of Canada. Mr. Hansen and Mr. Campbell, tell the entire story, of how, the BC citizens are being shafted. That is, if the honesty isn't too much for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-86015663449433794282010-06-30T08:25:28.472-07:002010-06-30T08:25:28.472-07:00I doubt Campbell will be happy until a class war s...I doubt Campbell will be happy until a class war starts. What little I have done is looked up what few Chamber Of Commerce members I deal with and I will notify them that they've lost my business because of the stance of the BC COC. I suggest everyone that feels as strongly as I do about this do the same.Willy Pnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-58385964241423997052010-06-30T08:18:07.629-07:002010-06-30T08:18:07.629-07:00"Funny how you moaners complain about busines..."Funny how you moaners complain about businesses profiting. Your precious pensions including CPP and OAS rely on public companies. At the end, you're screwing yourself. Well done."<br /><br />Not to mention jobs. There isn't one business out there that does not rely on another one to supply maerials and services.<br /><br />The moaners and complainers also forget the petition paper for signtures was made by a business, printed by a business, the computer they are using was made by a business, etc. etc.<br /><br />Old left wing mantra. Hate business and profit, but get a job in those businesses where profits are made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-59329488484766596372010-06-30T00:38:33.438-07:002010-06-30T00:38:33.438-07:00Do the math. 705,643 isn't even close to a ma...Do the math. 705,643 isn't even close to a majority. Where is this 85% against HST???? Most moaners have no sense of reality. Even if HST is extinguished, future governments will simply raise the PST tax rate. All governments need more money which means taxing the people.<br /><br />Funny how you moaners complain about businesses profiting. Your precious pensions including CPP and OAS rely on public companies. At the end, you're screwing yourself. Well done.<br /><br />If I vote, it'll be for the sex party. Sounds like most of you will be too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-51870002650053527722010-06-29T23:55:41.358-07:002010-06-29T23:55:41.358-07:00"The petitions will shortly be in the hands o..."The petitions will shortly be in the hands of elections BC and it is highly unlikely any court would attempt to derail the initiative process at this late date..."<br /><br />Wouldn't wait for that to happen.<br />It won't.<br /><br />The legislation VanderZalm and Delaney are presenting maybe reviewed by the court, but not the petition drive and signature collection, that still goes.<br /><br />Most likely the end result will be the BC Liberal government going for a referendum to be called, which was the premise of this thing when it first started.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71934390950569039662010-06-29T23:51:30.123-07:002010-06-29T23:51:30.123-07:00"No need to, just pick one or two of the larg..."No need to, just pick one or two of the larger companies. See how long they like taking one for the team."<br /><br />Well we can start where the previous poster gets most of his<br />stuff.<br /><br />Value Village.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67304360588378596142010-06-29T22:53:03.094-07:002010-06-29T22:53:03.094-07:00"Kinda hard to boycott most businesses in the..."Kinda hard to boycott most businesses in the province."<br /><br />No need to, just pick one or two of the larger companies. See how long they like taking one for the team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32306787843797034252010-06-29T21:24:40.662-07:002010-06-29T21:24:40.662-07:00One never knows what the courts in this 'provi...One never knows what the courts in this 'province' will decide...however, this lawsuit would appear to be too little AND too late.<br /><br />The petitions will shortly be in the hands of elections BC and it is highly unlikely any court would attempt to derail the initiative process at this late date...<br /><br />This issue is now one for the people of BC and the courts will be loathe to interfere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-90922567386191423862010-06-29T20:37:40.754-07:002010-06-29T20:37:40.754-07:00Kinda hard to boycott most businesses in the provi...Kinda hard to boycott most businesses in the province.<br /><br />But not impossible. :)<br /><br />Well you can start by not going to the grocery store and not buying those cola drinks. The sugar is getting to be too much obviously.<br /><br />and want to go to the Island?<br /><br />Row your own boat across the water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-54779568060486343932010-06-29T19:46:13.528-07:002010-06-29T19:46:13.528-07:00Here's a link to the B.C. Chamber of Commerce ...Here's a link to the B.C. Chamber of Commerce member directory:<br />http://www.bcchamber.org/directory/corporate.html<br /><br />Pretty well every company in BC including Crown corps such as Hydro and Ferries.<br /><br />Kinda hard to boycott most businesses in the province.<br /><br />But not impossible. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-82214444298393122952010-06-29T18:41:17.757-07:002010-06-29T18:41:17.757-07:00The group of business organizations is being repre...The group of business organizations is being represented by the ever competent Peter Gall, QC.<br /><br />You can read Gall's submission <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/33721094/B-C-business-groups-challenge-of-anti-HST-legislation" rel="nofollow">here</a> [Scribd.com]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-253725379739678942010-06-29T16:32:39.100-07:002010-06-29T16:32:39.100-07:00The Globe and Mail's Patrick Brethour gets an ...The Globe and Mail's Patrick Brethour gets an <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-wont-undertake-legal-challenge-of-anti-hst-petition-premier-says/article1620869/" rel="nofollow">exclusive</a> with BC Premier Gordon Campbell.<br /><br /><b>Brethour</b>: <i>Former attorney general Geoff Plant has talked about a possible legal challenge to the anti-HST petition, that it might not be properly formulated. Is that a route you’re willing to contemplate or should this remain a political question?</i><br /><br /><b>Campbell</b>: <i>The government won’t be contemplating that route. Obviously, the law is there for everyone. But the government will not contemplate that; we will allow the petition process to follow its course.</i><br /><br />Typical Gordon (No Contest) Campbell: The truth, but not the whole truth.<br /><br />I wonder how Brethour feels now that he knows he was used and abused by Campbell<b>?</b><br /><br />Former BC Liberal Attorney General Geoff Plant (and Campbell's ex-roommate in Victoria) has organized a surrogate business group to do the BC Liberal's dirty work.<br /><br />Is there a list of the businesses involved? Just curious in case anyone wants to make an individual decision to boycott those businesses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-73572756417849137922010-06-29T15:58:02.977-07:002010-06-29T15:58:02.977-07:00and I am sure that Zalm's Petition group will ...and I am sure that Zalm's Petition group will fully disclose expenses and sources of revenue??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com