tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post106055470098520889..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: EXCLUSIVE: Right-wing Group Plans $1 million 'Blanket Coverage' Ad Blitz Against BC NDPBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-43555316496269409702013-01-30T15:28:20.119-08:002013-01-30T15:28:20.119-08:00Hey parrot troll,i will see your bingogate and rai...Hey parrot troll,i will see your bingogate and raise you one Basi Virk payout.Nothing else matters except the swift kick in the teeth your party of thieves will get this May .You will both become more irrelevent than you already are.Have a good one troll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10703442902889807982013-01-22T09:47:12.422-08:002013-01-22T09:47:12.422-08:00Decades old news, there.142 RadentaDecades old news, there.142 RadentaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-28200956973922367492013-01-20T19:32:35.825-08:002013-01-20T19:32:35.825-08:00Want to also balance that off with David Stupich s...Want to also balance that off with David Stupich skimming off Bingo proceeds? He actually ended up in court for that. Harcourt turned himself in as a sacrificial lamb and left. <br /><br />Then there was Robin Blencoe and his sexual harassment case.<br /><br />But let's end the perpetual reminding of that idiot Gordon Campbell and his DUI and get back on topic shall we?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91245423203880203392013-01-20T18:10:15.952-08:002013-01-20T18:10:15.952-08:00"The BC Liberals are guilty of stupidity,not ..."The BC Liberals are guilty of stupidity,not a prison time crime."<br /><br />Let's start with drinking and driving shall we? Wow, that was easy.<br /><br />"basking on the beach is done in summer."<br />You don't get around much do you?<br />Today it's 35 degrees anywhere in southern Mexico, Cuba, Australia, and all over south America.Nice in Florida, too. Sounds like beach time to me! Ask Mr. T how the weather was in Mexico. I suspect phenomenal!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63168104438529132292013-01-20T16:19:59.644-08:002013-01-20T16:19:59.644-08:00While the BC Liberals are indeed guilty of stupidi...While the BC Liberals are indeed guilty of stupidity and its well known, can we please get back on topic which is CC4BC??<br /><br />Sheesh. Do NDPers constantly squeal like a squeaky wheel needing grease?<br /><br />The grease is coming.<br /><br />Wait for it to be plastered everywhere amongst the NDP government in June.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71321647844377608712013-01-20T13:31:41.356-08:002013-01-20T13:31:41.356-08:00So who needs to bask on a beach during the winter?...So who needs to bask on a beach during the winter? There's ski-ing,<br />snow shoeing, etc. basking on the beach is done in summer.<br /><br />and who would want to go to Toronto in winter unless to see the family? What for? To see the Maple Leafs play? Get real.<br /><br />and in regards to the prison time, tell us exactly what part of the Criminal Code would apply there? Cite? <br /><br />The BC Liberals are guilty of stupidity,not a prison time crime.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-30777728280588177162013-01-20T11:21:44.942-08:002013-01-20T11:21:44.942-08:00Amen to Anon 4:40! Some prison time sounds good.
W...Amen to Anon 4:40! Some prison time sounds good.<br />What sounds stupid is taking a winter holiday in Canada. For a start, where would one bask on a beach here in January ? It costs more for just a flight to Toronto or wherever than an all inclusive to Cabo! But you go ahead. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-31429805019071652742013-01-20T04:40:59.710-08:002013-01-20T04:40:59.710-08:00It would appear the BC libs are fundraising out of...It would appear the BC libs are fundraising out of the province. Alberta...you bet...the oil industry. They are up to the same old nonsense...say one thing, do another...<br /><br /> As for this group of nut bars, and the toons they let loose, it obviously makes no difference to them that the BC libs are the worst government ever seen in this province. What a complete crock...these types are shills for the clown contingent...the so called elites who want to rip the taxpayers off and leave a scorched earth financial mess for the rest of us...<br /><br /> This crap has to come to an end....as far as the BC libs are concerned some time behind bars for a few of them, just might send a message...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-49718332214089168582013-01-19T16:14:41.835-08:002013-01-19T16:14:41.835-08:00Doesn't matter if it is one person or one hund...Doesn't matter if it is one person or one hundred. <br /><br />It wouldn't be one person, there are probably 20 or 40 people who in total have reached that $ 1million, but it is a waste of money and effort.<br /><br />Now to parallel this million dollar effort by CC4BC, why would the BC Fed/BCTF, etc. etc. pay out additional money for their own adversting to slag the BC Liberals (and state the obvious? <br /><br />That too would be a waste of money and effort.<br /><br />If CC4BC can do this sort of advertising against the NDP, the BCFed/BCTF CUPE etc. can also do the same thing in favour of the NDP and against the BC Liberals (stating the obvious).<br /><br />Both are a waste of time and effort<br /><br />A reasonably thinking person would forgo those needless holidays to Mexico (and risk getting potted off by the drugistias down there) and spend the vacation money here.<br /><br />and the BC Fed/BCTF/BCGEU etc. do use time and space in MSM, is that buying them off?<br /><br />Is Bill's time in MSM appearances a waste of time and effort because many here hate the MSM and yet still hear/read/watch it?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-17002904673141372792013-01-19T10:28:27.986-08:002013-01-19T10:28:27.986-08:00BTW, smear and facts are 2 very different things.BTW, smear and facts are 2 very different things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-26087265663409279462013-01-19T10:27:05.042-08:002013-01-19T10:27:05.042-08:00"So how is some guys coming up with a million..."So how is some guys coming up with a million bucks to smear the NDP any different from the BCFed / BCTF / et. al. using resources to smear the BC Liberals in 2005 and 2009 which obviously didn't work)?"<br /><br />I sincerely doubt that ONE person would pay out that much, unless that person is Phil H. Only someone with that much hate would waste that much money. More reasonably thinking persons would go on holidays to Mexico and so on.<br /><br />Unless Clark resigns next week, it will be a fait accompli. No money on the planet will change folks minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-38450154316056416842013-01-19T07:45:18.865-08:002013-01-19T07:45:18.865-08:00The purpose of this campaign is not to give work t...The purpose of this campaign is not to give work to ad agencies. It is to buy off the MSM which is desperate for ad bucks. For every dollar spent on MSM ads you get many dollars worth of editorial and opinion collusion. These guys know value added when they see it!BillnPathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520470154571263853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-69027834928054447242013-01-18T22:26:12.951-08:002013-01-18T22:26:12.951-08:00The NDP is prime target. The basic concept of raw...The NDP is prime target. The basic concept of raw logs exports is just that, if second or third grade logs<br />aren't sold off to the mills, they are exported. The prime grade logs are used for sawing building lumber. <br /><br />But to get those logs as being logs takes alot of people and equipment, so the line says that it's just the truck loggers who benifit is crap.<br /><br />So how is some guys coming up with a million bucks to smear the NDP any different from the BCFed / BCTF / et. al. using resources to smear the BC Liberals in 2005 and 2009 which obviously didn't work)?<br /><br />The outcome of this digging up a milllion bucks to smear the NDP won't work, simply because the NDP will end up as government and the million bucks would be wasted money, but at least it gives work to PR consultants and ad agencies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10526283918898479742013-01-18T20:48:56.829-08:002013-01-18T20:48:56.829-08:00The original deal for raw logs as I understand, wa...The original deal for raw logs as I understand, was the BC mills had to be asked if they want the logs and if nobody does then they could be sold elsewhere. It seems now that some mills are finding it hard to get logs. I recall a district forest guy arresting a train about to haul logs out of the province and that was in 1973. Bill of course can explain the system used by the NDP The story here started with some guys trying to dig up a million to bucks to smear the NDPNot anon DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63806091641076771282013-01-18T20:31:49.091-08:002013-01-18T20:31:49.091-08:00" Right-wing Group Plans $1 million 'Blan..." Right-wing Group Plans $1 million 'Blanket Coverage' Ad Blitz Against BC NDP"<br /><br />You try first!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-78732796469344498912013-01-18T16:42:53.064-08:002013-01-18T16:42:53.064-08:00Anon 9:49 Friday Jan 18:
Well a better idea is fo...Anon 9:49 Friday Jan 18:<br /><br />Well a better idea is for you to do that. The NDP will have to deal with<br />export logs and my guess is that they will continue to allow raw logs to be exported since that is the topic of this thread, not Basi-Virk, etc etc.<br /><br />Please stay on topic.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72458362258923451322013-01-18T16:39:01.382-08:002013-01-18T16:39:01.382-08:00Anon 9:51 Friday January 18:
B.S. All you have to...Anon 9:51 Friday January 18:<br /><br />B.S. All you have to do is see the lumber transfer yard next to the Skytrain Bridge to see lumber production is ongoing, and so are the lumber mills.<br /><br />Take your hands off the PC at home and go out and see for yourself. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-85424417974367265622013-01-18T09:51:54.929-08:002013-01-18T09:51:54.929-08:00"What is missing from the equation is increas..."What is missing from the equation is increased lumber product production" Are you kidding? Missing? You mean non existent!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67318689787635608982013-01-18T09:49:48.242-08:002013-01-18T09:49:48.242-08:00"So where exactly would the NDP be on this is..."So where exactly would the NDP be on this issue?"<br />Why don't you ask them, Sherlock? How about asking them how they will deal with a $60 Billion debt left behind. How will they deal with Basi-Virk? How will they deal with a massive oil spill? Corruption? Scandal after scandal? Horrible bridge construction? Translink corruption? ICBC corruption? Did you notice your car insurance skyrocket the last few years, but THIS year...just before and election...no significant increase? Nice guys!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-12323248239104125482013-01-18T08:53:42.404-08:002013-01-18T08:53:42.404-08:00So where exactly would the NDP be on this issue? W...So where exactly would the NDP be on this issue? Would they ban outright the export of logs outright? Or continue with the log export policy they revised in the 1990s? <br /><br />The NDP allowed the export of raw logs when they were in power and will continue to do when they become government. A government would have to a fool not to take advantage of that addition revenue.<br /><br />or let's suppose if the NDP got smart and actually worked with the lumber industry to reconfigure mills to produce lumber cuts that can be exported to buyers in China and East Asia. <br /><br />Considering that Mike Harcourt went on a much ballyhooed trip to Japan in November of 1991 after winning the provincial election in October.<br /><br />Again anyone who says its just the truck loggers who benifit from the export of raw logs is very ignorant to the forest industry.<br /><br />What is missing from the equation is increased lumber product production, which is steadily increasing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-6792245994890010072013-01-17T17:11:40.102-08:002013-01-17T17:11:40.102-08:00To Non DPL. You just fed the Lieberal troll again....To Non DPL. You just fed the Lieberal troll again. Selling raw logs creates no value added. Something the Libs do not care about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-20490420356992290412013-01-17T12:20:03.195-08:002013-01-17T12:20:03.195-08:00Some mills closed outright, there were a strong of...Some mills closed outright, there were a strong of such closures in the late 1990s and, and the NDP did not do much of anything to try and sell BC forest products beyond the US market. Nor did they provide<br />much support for the forest industry.<br /><br />The main thing is the the NDP did very little to assist what was BC's largest industry at the time.<br /><br />The Forest companies did adhere to the changes in the Forest Practices Code, and continue with sustainable harvesting. The environmentalists were front and center on just about everyhwere there were logging operations, and the NDP of the day certainly did not go onside with the forest companies to assist the industry. They couldn't because they did not want to split the green vote that existed at the time.<br /><br />As far as truck loggers only benifiting from BC Liberal forest policy, that's crap.<br /><br />The logs have to be harvested so enter the boys and girls up there running the chainsaws, the spar trees, and the yarders. Then the haul roads have to be maintained so there's the crews there. The logs reach the pond or the dryland sort, so more operators for the equipment there. If the logs are barged, the tugboat crews are a part of it. At port, the logs are sorted and then lifted aboard the ship. The tugboats assist the ship out of port. The pilot boards the ship to take her out to sea. |<br /><br />in the mean time in the office, the office staff are keeping an eye on the shipments, the suppliers are providing parts and replacement equipment for all steps invovled in the movement of the logs.<br /><br />The thing missing are the crews at the lumber mills. <br /><br />Only second and third grade level logs are bought for log export. Prime grade logs are sent to the mills for cutting into lumber projects.<br /><br />To say just the truck loggers are the only people benifiting is just crap from someone who hasn't worked the industry even as a gate guard guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83652051891747267592013-01-17T11:15:57.407-08:002013-01-17T11:15:57.407-08:00What some of you seem to have forgot was that back...What some of you seem to have forgot was that back in the 90's when the forest industry ruled, was at that time Japan which was our second largest customer next to the US had a major economic meltdown. This meltdown had a huge effect on the BC forest industry, there wasn't a whole lot the NDP could have done at the time, sure they could have given tax breaks but that still wouldn't have helped with the customer base or sales. As a result some mills curtailed production.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-13300835556793467242013-01-17T10:09:47.899-08:002013-01-17T10:09:47.899-08:00@ Anonymous 10:07 - well, that's a bit of revi...@ Anonymous 10:07 - well, that's a bit of revisionist history. The NDP "caved" to the environmentalists in the 90s to try and save the Industry. And the ONLY reason the major players in the forest industry cleaned up their act, is because of the Forest Practises Code. Notice they haven't been cutting sustainably for, oh...the past 12 years or so? They also had money for retraining of displaced forest workers. Truck loggers are the ONLY people benefiting from the BC Lieberal forest policy.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-69220668486717796932013-01-16T22:07:48.489-08:002013-01-16T22:07:48.489-08:00Well the NDP was never in favour of the forest ind...Well the NDP was never in favour of the forest industry to begin with. <br /><br />The NDP used to cave in to the environmentalists even after the major players in the forest industry cleaned up their act and began sustainable cuts. <br /><br />It is a bit of a paradox because the IWA had sanctioned seats at NDP Conventions in the past.<br /><br />Also worth nothing is that the NDP wrote the foundation of the current policy when it comes to exporting raw logs. <br /><br />The truck Loggers do benifit from inreased log harvesting be it logs to the pond to lumber, pulp and paper mills here or for export.<br /><br />The NDP has wrapped itself with a choker cable many times when it comes to forestry policy. <br /><br />Some of their policies were run up the spar tree. <br /><br />But other than the NDP diehards, no one saluted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com