tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post8363261897688883471..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: BASI-VIRK - Defence alleges documents obtained through FOI of Premier Gordon Campbell's office show Basi & Virk may not have leaked BC Rail infoBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88821087515127610172008-12-16T16:20:00.000-08:002008-12-16T16:20:00.000-08:001:44 PMYou ask about Emersons salary. According to...1:44 PM<BR/><BR/>You ask about Emersons salary. <BR/><BR/>According to the local newspaper he is getting paid nothing to chair the committee. Mind you it didn't mention an amount for expenses, so he might be getting some there. And sometimes folks who work for free get some other form of benefits. But hope this answers your question on that one little point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29185905966850364332008-12-16T09:35:00.000-08:002008-12-16T09:35:00.000-08:00Thanks for your kind comments Gary E.The "veteran ...Thanks for your kind comments Gary E.<BR/><BR/>The "veteran observer" is not Robin Mathews, whose presence I appreciate when it is possible. I know the gentleman's name but he has so far chosen to remain anonymous on these and other pages.<BR/><BR/>As to Anon 1:44 - you clearly don't read much of what I write or you'd know the breadth of coverage here and in 24 hours and The Tyee.<BR/><BR/>Those are all good topics and some excellent people are covering some of them, like Andrew McLeod at the Tyee on the German BC Ferries problems. <BR/><BR/>I also do not cover some topics - that's one of them - because my communications consulting clients are very involved and it represents too much of a conflict of interest.<BR/><BR/>But mostly I suspect you are just someone who would rather I not report on Basi-Virk in detail, especially when some days I'm the only journalist in the courtroom. <BR/><BR/>Hmmm... now why would you not want to hear that reported? And who might you be? Ha-ha.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-79034658741814061552008-12-16T09:19:00.000-08:002008-12-16T09:19:00.000-08:00What Gary E. said.....And the work of the 'veteran...What Gary E. said.....<BR/><BR/>And the work of the 'veteran observer', and the debt of gratitude the people of British Columbia owe him, cannot be overstated.<BR/><BR/>RossK<BR/><BR/>.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91831132283136754292008-12-16T07:34:00.000-08:002008-12-16T07:34:00.000-08:00Anonymous 1:44PMyou just don't get it do you. Bill...Anonymous 1:44PM<BR/><BR/>you just don't get it do you. Bill Tieleman is the only reporter in the courtroom most of the time. If we didn't have him and a few blogs like BC Marys or Robin Mathews who I suspect is the "veteran observer" we would basically have nothing. <BR/><BR/>Let me ask you this. Have you ever seen anything in the mainstream media before it was reported here? Or on the other blogs?<BR/><BR/>There would be absolutely no information forthcoming if it weren't for these formats. And Gordon Campbells' government would move under the radar with no one to hold them to account. In fact I allege that if it weren't for some of Bills scoops we wouldn't have anything. I have only been able to make it to court a couple of times. The first time there was 3 reporters besides Bill. And there was nothing in print of the goings on from that day except Bills. My second trip ( and it's 450 kms) I met Bill, saw Robin, and a huge backroom liberal boy whom I didn't recognize right away. There were no other reporters that I could see that day. But there was some thing in print. I suspect they got hold of the hearing transcript.<BR/><BR/>We have seen some amazing information given on this site, in the Tyee, on BC Marys blog, on the Gazetteer and the House of Infamy. Some of it from the average citizen who found the time to go to court and report back to us. The people of this province have a right to know what happened to their railway. It was not sold it was given away. They also have a right to know how that was done and the reporting by Bill Tieleman and others from the courthouse is doing just that.Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-56180803785541130762008-12-15T19:18:00.000-08:002008-12-15T19:18:00.000-08:00.So ... as it turned out ... there was nothing goi....<BR/>So ... as it turned out ... there was nothing going on today (Dec. 15) in the BCRail Case in BC Supreme Court. <BR/><BR/>Guess that January 5 date is correct after all. <BR/><BR/>.BC Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16597928683019021273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-38127813906120611952008-12-15T19:12:00.000-08:002008-12-15T19:12:00.000-08:00I wonder if others noticed what Saltspring News sa...I wonder if others noticed what Saltspring News said about news coverage of Basi & Virk incidents?<BR/><BR/><I><B> <BR/>Monday, December 15, 2008<BR/>Regional News<BR/>Eye on Gordon Campbell's British Columbia: Did you know? We didn't. THREE Basi-Virk-related trials in 2008 ...<BR/>BC Mary The Legislature Raids British Columbia Canada December 13, 2008<BR/><BR/>Like a dog on a bone, BC Mary just won't give up. And like a dog on a bone she is cracking the hard outer vessel to extract the nutrients within—in this case, the nourishment of exposed, previously hidden, truths.<BR/><BR/>At times during 2008 there were THREE related Basi or Basi-Virk trials going on in B.C. courtrooms. Three.<BR/><BR/>Trial #1 was Regina vs Bains, the anxiously-awaited calling-to-account of the alleged Mr Big on the West Coast drug scene. Jasmohan Singh Bains was the significant "person of interest" whose many telephone calls to his cousin in the Ministry of Finance alerted police to more than the drugs trafficking. Including questionable aspects of the BC Rail sale. ...<BR/><BR/>Trial #2, the Basi Virk Basi BC Rail trial -- our own pointless Seinfeld sitcom which goes on and on about nothing with a few laughs from the lawyers (who are way too cheery if you ask me), a bit of impatience (Ol' Bill as George Costanza, who keeps wanting to launch a new show of his own), a Kramer or two, and Madam Justice Elaine presiding. ...<BR/><BR/>Trial #3 is sneaking up on us ... or so we may have thought. But much to my surprise, I learned last week that the [Agricultural Land Reserve Act] trial, of R. v. Udhe Singh (Dave) Basi, is well under way, movin' right along in pre-trial hearings in Victoria Provincial Court and -- get this -- protected by a publication ban. Who knew? ...<BR/><BR/>BC deserves some sort of award for having THREE separate courts on pretty much the same issues at pretty much the same time revolving around the same guy. At very least, we belong in the Guiness Book of Records. Also for the size of the legal bills. As for Big Media ... you'd think that every red-blooded journalist in the country would be onto this story, digging, drilling, deducing. Media and politicians are so quick to blame the public for apathy. Well, how can people care about issues they've never heard about. On the other hand, just imagine: police swoop down on a Legislature, carry off 32 boxes of files, and except for RCMP Staff Sergeant John Ward, nobody in authority knows anything. That's a story. News media, if you ask me, are the ones with the apathy. And that may be putting it much too kindly. ... </B></I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Amazing, eh? Three trials going on around Dave Basi's alleged activities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-296674116040291192008-12-15T13:44:00.000-08:002008-12-15T13:44:00.000-08:00Bill T...Why don`t you move on,you give us same st...Bill T...Why don`t you move on,you give us same story everyday,privalege,documents,delays, the story is getting old,when you have something substantial to report then report it,how much drivel can a reader take?<BR/><BR/>Why don`t you talk about 2 tier hydro robbing people,seniors freezing in the dark because they can`t afford their hydro bills,the 3.6 billion dollars to the builder of the sea to sky highway.<BR/><BR/>Maybe a story about the 10s of billions added to our BC debt,maybe try to find out out how much Emerson is being paid by Campbell,how about a story on the millions of tax payer dollars to advertise the BC Liberals "open platform" The web site isn`t open platform,it slags the NDP at every turn,spins,lies,and promotes the fiberals.<BR/>Where is the media screaming about tax dollars spent on a partisn elect Campbell web site!<BR/><BR/>Your becoming quite stale, this latest BC rail story could of been summed up in a few words, " More of the same"<BR/><BR/>Why don`t you tell the listeners of CKNW about the latest ferry fiasco,useless tied to the dock ferries that are vibrating themselves to death and guzzle fuel faster Campbell guzzles martini`s during lunch!<BR/><BR/>Are you getting any ideas yet bill?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-43600533595380441112008-12-15T11:10:00.000-08:002008-12-15T11:10:00.000-08:00You are a beacon of sunshine in an otherwise dark ...You are a beacon of sunshine in an otherwise dark and bleak media scene, Mr. Tieleman. <BR/>Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74755634519901670502008-12-14T17:14:00.000-08:002008-12-14T17:14:00.000-08:00Again, Again . . . I have told you the fix was in ...Again, Again . . . I have told you the fix was in on Basigate and no one will ever do any time let alone wear the poop for this one.<BR/><BR/>In the end Basigate will drift away just like all the other Gordon Campbell scandals.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter if its City Hall, Maui or Victoria, Gordo owns the media, the courts and the cops in this province.<BR/><BR/>Remember the Grit motto . . . "We Only Cheat When We Can't Win"<BR/><BR/>The GREAT SATANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-65743719435154385362008-12-14T14:49:00.000-08:002008-12-14T14:49:00.000-08:00"the (release of) FOI materials - which provincial...<I>"the (release of) FOI materials - which provincial government lawyer George Coply said may be opposed on the basis of "cabinet confidence," "solicitor client privilege," "third party financial information," and/or "unreasonable invasion of personal privacy" - all relevant sections of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Given that the FOI information has already been released, presumably under the very same 'Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act' that Mr. Copley is now citing retroactively, does that mean that he would, if forced to, perhaps resort to any and all available 'twinkie defenses' to protect his clients.....errrrrr.....bosses?<BR/><BR/>.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10695002280203493622008-12-14T14:06:00.000-08:002008-12-14T14:06:00.000-08:00Thanks as usual Bill for the update. Monday might ...Thanks as usual Bill for the update. Monday might be interesting. Who said it that the case would not be be continued held till January? Duff Gen, as we used to call it.<BR/>It's nice to har what's going on from someone who is an observer on the scene, not supposition by some othersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-81922151003803303912008-12-14T13:58:00.000-08:002008-12-14T13:58:00.000-08:00On a snowy Sunday we have finally learned why the ...On a snowy Sunday we have finally learned why the Government has been very concerned with the release of Government information. <BR/><BR/>The judge has already ruled emails previously are extremely relevant and that some emails go to the "innocence at stake" regarding the accused.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Justice delayed is justice denied and the Government is more interested in more delay than more justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com