tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post8098125809391435025..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: TYEE ARTICLE: Railgate Bombshell: BC Gov't Ethics Scorched by Rail FirmsBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10563878763327973132009-03-08T09:48:00.000-07:002009-03-08T09:48:00.000-07:00Anonymous 8:59. Are you saying that wishing to kno...Anonymous 8:59. Are you saying that wishing to know the truth makes one a political loser and social reject?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-13371869357437509842009-03-07T08:59:00.000-08:002009-03-07T08:59:00.000-08:00You know your dealing with slimeball reporting whe...You know your dealing with slimeball reporting when AGT comes out and starts defending it.<BR/><BR/>This blog has become a pow wow of political losers and social rejects from across the country. Keep it up Bill!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-15177083013138604552009-03-05T16:50:00.000-08:002009-03-05T16:50:00.000-08:00Alex--May I humbly suggest that, with respect to a...Alex--<BR/><BR/>May I humbly suggest that, with respect to a the actions of a good number of your colleagues in the media, you have just described what some have termed 'The Evils of Access'.<BR/><BR/><BR/>RossK<BR/><BR/><BR/>____<BR/>As an aside, it's interesting that, despite the trolling (or maybe because of it?), this ultimately turned into a darned fine comment thread.<BR/><BR/>.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-70897001438507891982009-03-05T11:06:00.000-08:002009-03-05T11:06:00.000-08:00Thx Garth...yes, you know, when good people get to...Thx Garth...yes, you know, when good people get together, their politics comes away and what you're left with is just the goodness.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps I'm a bit of a dreamer when it comes to this, but I genuinely believe in the goodness of people. And that inherent quality has been disrespected by a very pampered set of politicos and establishment swine (as opposed to some very good people in the same bailiwick).<BR/><BR/>No one will get me to change my mind: We've been lied to and the truth has been shielded from us.<BR/><BR/>That's disgusting.<BR/><BR/>But what I find more disgusting is that so many of my colleagues in the media have some sort of variation of 'Ostrich Syndrome': Being on someone's show or satisfying some editor, who's pals with one of the questioned, is more important. And journalistic integrity goes out the window. I am scorned and dismissed by many of them because I didn't spend twenty years in some smoke filled newsroom, but I would stack up my professional integrity against my critics, any day. I have never shilled for anyone. I've been both critical and supportive of almost every party (except the Greens, for obvious reasons and the federal NDP, who are led by a madman)<BR/><BR/>I have a whole slew of friends in politics, but when I need to write something negative about them, tey understand that it's nothing personal; I pull no punches--ever.<BR/><BR/>The rid and subsequent trial are so very significant because it speaks to the fundamental reason you proverbially pull the lever for any candidate: You make a basic emotional connection with the candidate--integirty, honesty, commitment, all play great roles in your decision.<BR/><BR/>In this case, we have been significantly let down.<BR/><BR/>At least.<BR/><BR/>And May is just around the corner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-41458940265781899982009-03-05T09:58:00.000-08:002009-03-05T09:58:00.000-08:00All the debate we generate here disappears when it...All the debate we generate here disappears when it hits the boundaries of Beautiful Mainstream BC Media and the grossly ineffective leadership of the NDP.<BR/><BR/>It is fast becoming time that the other legal democratic options start being employed.<BR/><BR/>The battle for a free press and truly democratic government must be taken to the streets.<BR/><BR/>The Campbell Regime and its media fellow-travelers are no different than Poland and Romania in the early 1980s and certainly our "Great Helmsman" Campbell would see the People Republic of China as a model on how government and the press should work in harmony with the ruling elites.<BR/><BR/>The GREAT SATANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-24727334531747891452009-03-05T08:38:00.000-08:002009-03-05T08:38:00.000-08:00Alex,Second time in a couple of months I have been...Alex,<BR/><BR/>Second time in a couple of months I have been forced to say 'well done' in response to something you have written here.<BR/><BR/>Bravo.<BR/><BR/>Keep pushing, the truth will out.<BR/><BR/>In addition, Ms James, please, pay attention.<BR/><BR/>I understand her party is planning a media briefing on Friday - seems like a good opportunity to announce a commitment to a full public inquiry headed by a commissioner with the legal power to subpoena witnesses and compel testimony.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work Bill.G Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09487763931438315174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52701457217512021422009-03-05T02:07:00.000-08:002009-03-05T02:07:00.000-08:00Anon 7:50pm:Yes, I'm quite aware of Carole's commi...Anon 7:50pm:<BR/><BR/>Yes, I'm quite aware of Carole's commitment to a public inquiry IN THE LAST ELECTION.<BR/><BR/>Since then, nothing but vacant messaging and frothy nothingness.<BR/><BR/>Stand up woman! Stand up and tell us, without any of the political spinmeistering by your (thus far) mostly incompetent spit-bucket carriers, that this is a matter of vital interest to us all. I could give a flying damn what she said in the last election. I think the public needs to know that if she's going to be Premier, that we can expect that she will pursue the truth. WE ARE OWED THIS! <BR/><BR/>As for Anon 8:51, please pay attn. As someone who almost lost two relatives to the firing squads (that was when they were too tired to shuffle you off to the ovens), I really feel that you should be quite ashamed of what you have written. <BR/><BR/>I did not crawl out from anywhere, am not an isolationist, and have not banded together with anyone based on their political ideology. I want what I deserve, like every single other person in this province deserves--THE TRUTH.<BR/><BR/>I do not care about what political pipe someone smokes, although I admit to not having much time or patience with the doctrinaire left (any more than I can bear the soCons)<BR/><BR/>Madame Justice ELizabeth Bennett said it herself: There is no question that there exists and overwhelming public interest in this matter...the public has a right to know.<BR/><BR/>The details are very simple: This was a drug case that turned into a corruption case. How did that come about? Who is directly and indirectly involved? What involvement, if any did any govt officials have? In the course of the deal, were there any bribes made, who made them and what does the map of the deal really look like.<BR/><BR/>Those questions are plenty enough. But they get to the heart of the matter and any other issues will extend from those.<BR/><BR/>I repeat, based on the new information, if none existed before, there is now an OVERWHELMING necessity for a full, independent and complete public inquiry.<BR/><BR/>Enough dancing and sparring. Tell the truth. If you have nothing to hide, great, it does not in any way compromise the case, let's hear it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2893687277080878652009-03-04T21:13:00.000-08:002009-03-04T21:13:00.000-08:00Why isn't this headline news everywhere!!??The fac...Why isn't this headline news everywhere!!??<BR/><BR/>The fact that it is not headline news - IS HEADLINE NEWSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-41907155353215238002009-03-04T20:51:00.000-08:002009-03-04T20:51:00.000-08:00Great to see all sort of nationalists, paleocons, ...Great to see all sort of nationalists, paleocons, and isolationists creeping out of the woodwork to break bread with the fake progressive leftists here for an orgy of the nationalists and the socialists.<BR/><BR/>Reminds me of a terrific pact back in 1939 between the right and the left in Europe - giving credence to the alliance of the national socialists.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work Bill - and lets see some sweaty photos with Socred rightwinger Raif Mair added to your collection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-9670645235857759242009-03-04T20:31:00.000-08:002009-03-04T20:31:00.000-08:00Always charming to find some person called Anon, d...Always charming to find some person called Anon, dropping stuff all over the blogger. Lets get real folks, to manage the time to be able to read the stuff released and then take notes, to write articles, it sure is lousy to complain about which side of the political spectrum the messenger is located. <BR/><BR/>In case some folks don't know, MLA Krog said the whole works will be on the NDP website before the week end so we can all read the stuff and make our own decisions on who is right and who is not. Kind of makes Stone Wally's feeble attempts keep saying it's before the courts etc.<BR/><BR/>As Alex says, right or left is not the issue, it's who is giving away a lot of the province and are too underhanded to allow other companies to have a fair bit opportunity. A couple of pretty large rail companies were apparently getting shafted, and big companies don't like being treated like dummies.<BR/><BR/>Question Period is getting pretty interesting. Not many answers but good questions.<BR/><BR/>I saw on TV this evening that our Soliciter General has racked up quite a record of speeding tickets. Government side pretty quiet , not like when Moe was known to have picked up a few himself. The Liberals went ballistic then. But not now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-15082839019186043422009-03-04T19:50:00.000-08:002009-03-04T19:50:00.000-08:00Alex, FYI: Carole James called for/ committed to a...Alex, FYI: Carole James called for/ committed to a public inquiry into the BC Rail sale in the 2005 campaign.<BR/><BR/>According Hansard, the NDP put a motion forward in the legislature back in February of 2006 calling for the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-42386409199656340622009-03-04T19:06:00.000-08:002009-03-04T19:06:00.000-08:00And the crazy thing about all this?I find myself a...And the crazy thing about all this?<BR/><BR/>I find myself agreeing with every single word pounded out by AGT in his comment above. <BR/><BR/>And given my political leanings that's saying something.<BR/><BR/>RossK<BR/><BR/>.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88502952046360135822009-03-04T16:31:00.000-08:002009-03-04T16:31:00.000-08:00argumentum ad hominemReply to an argument by attac...argumentum ad hominem<BR/><BR/>Reply to an argument by attacking the presenter, not the argument itself. Used when the responder is incapable of factually disputing an argument. Indicative of weak intellectual capacity.<BR/><BR/>The shoe fits a few anonymous commenters here.NRFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10313572676780364282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-36168911229386214172009-03-04T14:52:00.000-08:002009-03-04T14:52:00.000-08:00Truthfully, I was going to post a long, detailed a...Truthfully, I was going to post a long, detailed account of the shameless hypocrisy with which some obviously Liberal posters have commented, but I gather from the rest of you that you have seen through the mist...<BR/><BR/>As time passes, the demand should become greater and greater...<BR/><BR/>The BC Rail debacle aches for a public inquiry like nothing ever has before.<BR/><BR/>This should be the mantra of every major media outlet in, at least, this province.<BR/><BR/>But I think it's abundantly obvious that this isn't going to happen.<BR/><BR/>So, it will be up to the rest of us...<BR/><BR/>I also love how some posters, again, Lib lickspittles, have attacked Bill as being left wing, and that this simply enables his motivation.<BR/><BR/>Let me be clear: I am not a left winger, not now, not ever. I have many friends who are, one of whom is Tieleman, and I don't judge them, and certainly, I do not love or respect them any less. <BR/><BR/>But, I am a right winger, although quite moderate on social issues, and I feel that this information is vital. I am convinced that ON OUR TAX DOLLAR, the trajectory of BC Rail deal went places it should have NEVER traveled to. <BR/><BR/>I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT MANY MEMBERS OF THE POLITICAL HIERARCHIES OF BOTH GORDON CAMPBELL AND THEN PRIME MINISTER PAUL MARTIN, ARE FEARFUL THAT THEIR ROLES IN THIS AFFAIR WILL BECOME VERY PUBLIC, IN PAINFUL DETAIL.<BR/><BR/>Thus, I want you all to understand what a huge service Bill Tieleman has done for the people of this province. He is the only journalist with enough courage and integrity to ask the difficult questions and report the facts, as they relate to this sordid affair and NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY ANYONE'S CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE.<BR/><BR/>This isn't about right or left, this about right and wrong!<BR/><BR/>Never in our province's history has there been a series of more potentially devastating accusations by police against any govt officials--period. Yes, the side issues of who did what to whom are tantalizing, but the real issues here are the legal ones. You can't have one without the other.<BR/><BR/>So I have two questions:<BR/><BR/>Regardless of what the trial reveals, if Premier Gordon Campbell has nothing to hide or to fear, then why not say that a full and independent public inquiry is certainly on the table at the conclusion of this trial, if his govt is re-elected.<BR/><BR/>And...<BR/><BR/>Why has Carole James not committed to the same thing if she is elected Premier?<BR/><BR/>Cost? Phewy...we are spending 6B on the Owelympics..<BR/><BR/>No amt of money is too costly to return dignity to the West Annex, integrity to the Legislature and concurrently satisfy the public's right to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27296450597128999902009-03-04T12:16:00.000-08:002009-03-04T12:16:00.000-08:00Bill T---Thanks Bill,I have been watching the BC l...Bill T---Thanks Bill,I have been watching the BC legislature and WOW,a picture worth a 1000 words,the BC Liberal MLAs and cabinet look like they are ready to cry!<BR/>I guess they must have gotten some more internal polls--Nuraney and the Burnaby Liberal Mlas know they are finished,they are begging for Campbell to throw them a life-line--<BR/>The BC Liberals know they are finished,BC Rail is just a little icing,I expect 4 or more Liberal MLAs to resign/not run in may/they know their done!<BR/>Falcon got Lambasted on the Sean Leslie show last sunday,Hansen can`t even speak anymore with using words and phrases like, "Our share of some of,the incremental costs of,items that we agreed,would be part of a deal involving the incremantal partial share of the deal we signed with Ottawa"<BR/>Yikes,what jibberish is that!<BR/><BR/>And to you angry little Liberals,just have Campbell state on the record, "we don`t care about BC Rail,nothing to see,BCers have more important things on their minds"<BR/><BR/>I guess the clowns down at PAB (public affairs bereau) are worried,they have but another 2 months of employment! HAAA-HAAA<BR/><BR/>Election results may 2009---NDP 55 seats---Independent 1 seat---Liberals 29 seats--Eat that you cry baby Liberals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16695449037550804332009-03-04T10:11:00.000-08:002009-03-04T10:11:00.000-08:00Basically this is glorified sour grapes from unsuc...Basically this is glorified sour grapes from unsuccessful bidders. Nothing new in that. If these other bidders really knew what the exact bid amount was they could have submitted something higher. Instead they chose to withdraw and complain. Boo Hoo.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully there is a much bigger smoking gun in those 8000 pages other than sour grapes and some lame political strategy notes. I think Basi and Virk are taking us all for a ride.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-41930385466908783152009-03-04T09:17:00.000-08:002009-03-04T09:17:00.000-08:00A little disgusted with the comments of one your r...A little disgusted with the comments of one your readers. F..this F..that. Sounds like this could be coming from one of the Campbell crew or the CEO at CN rail.The CEO at CN[an american]gets 55 million a year.This is the same co.that is dumping toxic waste into lakes and rivers, in BC Alta and elsewhere in Canada.Have they ever paid for cleanup? <BR/>You are doing a great job Bill keep it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-15713778753043581882009-03-04T08:16:00.000-08:002009-03-04T08:16:00.000-08:00Bill, I really notice the right wingers on your si...Bill, I really notice the right wingers on your site stepping it up a notch. Their insults are getting much angrier, and credibility now down to zero.<BR/><BR/>Way to go boys...keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89175514592654806282009-03-04T07:00:00.000-08:002009-03-04T07:00:00.000-08:00Neo Con dribble? Do you have any idea what a neo c...Neo Con dribble? Do you have any idea what a neo conservative is? <BR/><BR/>I see idiots throwing this terminology around. In order to be a neo conservative, you have to have studied under philosophy under Leo Strauss or Michael Bloom. Calling anyone in Canada a neo conservative idiotic.<BR/><BR/>Neo conservatives are an extremely small group of people within the Republican Party in the United States.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-15891776116130500452009-03-03T23:19:00.000-08:002009-03-03T23:19:00.000-08:00To: ANOM 10:03pmYour wrong . . . lots of people ca...To: ANOM 10:03pm<BR/><BR/>Your wrong . . . lots of people care, but your kind has been around for decades preaching neo-con dribble from one trailer park or another from Abbotsford to Arkansas.<BR/><BR/>Characters like you stateside voted for George & Dick in 2000 and in the "Fatherland" in 1932 for the Austrian Corporal.<BR/><BR/>The GREAT SATANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-36090482215251969342009-03-03T23:08:00.000-08:002009-03-03T23:08:00.000-08:00Note to Anon. at (10:03pm)Yes, voters give a crap ...Note to Anon. at (10:03pm)<BR/><BR/>Yes, voters give a crap about this. If you could flash back to 2001, you would have found that voters were thinking of NDP scandals from the 1980's when they tossed them from office...they'll be thinking of RailGate and the legislature raid when they vote in May.Pete's Viewpointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500471660604607507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89382087255812603022009-03-03T22:03:00.000-08:002009-03-03T22:03:00.000-08:00The tragedy of this, and Bill, you know this bette...The tragedy of this, and Bill, you know this better than anyone, is that NO ONE CARES. <BR/><BR/>Everyone knows you are a political hack, thats why no one takes you seriously in the journalist community.<BR/><BR/>If you had an ounce of integrity your hard work might get some play outside your shitty column in 24 hrs. Instead, your just the sweaty fat guy always yelling about BC Rail.<BR/><BR/>Hey Bill, did you get the memo its the year two thousand and fucking nine? People have other things on their minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-62341743542251703522009-03-03T20:20:00.000-08:002009-03-03T20:20:00.000-08:00The sole purpose of Bill 42 is to limit 3rd partie...The sole purpose of Bill 42 is to limit 3rd parties from informing the general public on how corrupt this Liberal gov is. The BC rail fiasco is one of the longest cover ups of political corruption in BC and possibly Canada. What's in it for the Campbell bunch personally? When the NDP form the gov in May I hope Carole James puts the fast track on the Basi Virk Basi trial The end of may would be great. This mass corruption coverup by Campbell and his crew has to be uncovered. Remember your ABC"s Anyboby But CampbellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-17316161404099184552009-03-03T19:49:00.000-08:002009-03-03T19:49:00.000-08:00YAWNWhy is the government in the railroad business...YAWN<BR/><BR/>Why is the government in the railroad business anyways?<BR/><BR/>Who were the socialists (both from the left and the right) who are the root cause of this problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-35417175946379686702009-03-03T18:12:00.000-08:002009-03-03T18:12:00.000-08:00I gather I'm not the only one to notice that the C...I gather I'm not the only one to notice that the Campbellite "fart-catchers" at CanWest/Global media have not even heard of let alone reported on any of this.<BR/><BR/>If Premiers could appoint Senators, the entire editorial boards and reporters of the Sun, the Province, the Times/Colonist, BCTV and whatever the name of the Billy Bad radio station is, would all be in the Red Chamber and "Honourable".<BR/><BR/>The GREAT SATAN<BR/><BR/>p.s. I'm sorry if I left any other deserving Senators from the Beautiful BC Butt-Kissing media out . . . including the Vancouver wing of the Candian Broadcasting CORPSE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com