tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post8086669555076050686..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: BC government even manages to screw up $40 million deal with Telus to rename "iconic" BC Place - can now rename as "Field of Incompetents"!Bill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72860936222417901542012-03-18T12:29:27.517-07:002012-03-18T12:29:27.517-07:00PDF: The full report on Telus as name sponsor for ...<a href="http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/85747854?access_key=key-yxe91my236mwjpntcjw" rel="nofollow">PDF</a>: The full report on Telus as name sponsor for B.C. Place - August 4, 2010Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-12619281372083255392012-03-16T21:29:59.208-07:002012-03-16T21:29:59.208-07:00We don't take money from our "rich" ...We don't take money from our "rich" friends... we tax the "minions" for that, how else can we stay in power...hmmm. <br /><br />Sickening...isn't it...<br /><br />Sure is, especially when the NDP hates Big Business such as Telus, wants to send Corporate taxes into the stratosphere and at the same time, gladly takes money from Big Labour such as the BC Fed of which the TWU is a member.<br /><br />Indeed how else could the NDP return to power?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-571065177921291482012-03-13T08:17:29.458-07:002012-03-13T08:17:29.458-07:00We don't take money from our "rich" ...We don't take money from our "rich" friends... we tax the "minions" for that, how else can we stay in power...hmmm. <br /><br />Sickening...isn't it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34768777279958778812012-03-12T15:43:42.555-07:002012-03-12T15:43:42.555-07:00"The NDP have rightly pointed out that the BC..."The NDP have rightly pointed out that the BC Liberals have given away $40 million that taxpayers will have to pick up - and alienated a major corporation for no apparent good reason."<br /><br />Wasn't "given away", they figured rightly or wrongly, an alternative is out there. <br /><br />"One would like to think any opposition would do the same."<br /><br />Well sort of.<br /><br />Interesting though.<br /><br />Support Telus now through this, and later when the NDP becomes government, see them as one of those hated Corporations and tax the crap out of them as per the overall direction that many NDP suppporters want the government to do.<br /><br />TWU or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61410376541838151182012-03-11T17:40:57.096-07:002012-03-11T17:40:57.096-07:00Which friends and insiders of the Christy BC Clark...Which friends and insiders of the Christy BC Clark Liberals, if any, are going to get the agency work for "branding" or "rebranding"? Pavco worked hard at this to get an upper spectrum compensation pakage and then had the "rug pulled out" at the highest political levels, which is most unbusinesslike and undercuts the government's faith in the management of Pavco.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-19000433804438255852012-03-11T17:05:04.746-07:002012-03-11T17:05:04.746-07:00Good to see some pro-Liberal spin here - nice to k...Good to see some pro-Liberal spin here - nice to know they're still in this game!<br /><br />But on the NDP and Telus - the NDP has made it clear how stupidly the government has been in dealing with BC's biggest private sector employer and one of Canada's leading companies.<br /><br />They have not allied themselves with Telus or absolved its management of responsibility for past union grievances.<br /><br />But Telus and the TWU have a negotiated contract and presumably the union and its members - along with BC voters - would like to see any company dealt with fairly by government - not screwed around.<br /><br />The NDP have rightly pointed out that the BC Liberals have given away $40 million that taxpayers will have to pick up - and alienated a major corporation for no apparent good reason.<br /><br />One would like to think any opposition would do the same.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-9127819083249348242012-03-11T16:54:12.524-07:002012-03-11T16:54:12.524-07:00"The NDP (and yes I am a member) supports Tel..."The NDP (and yes I am a member) supports Telus?"<br /><br />Apparently they are on side with Telus on this issue (and don't figure the $2 million a year can be obtained from other advertisers). And don't forget Spencer did support the BC Place label.<br /><br />"Lovely. The same company that tried to bust its union back in 2005 and shipped thousands of jobs overseas?That Telus?"<br /><br />Yep, 'fraid so. And don't forget<br />the many non union jobs that Telus cleaned out. There were many. I know of 6 or 8 people alone who lost out on Telus. <br /><br />"I understand it's political but frankly I am sickened by the cynicism of the issue. And the slap in the face to those Telus workers that lost their jobs."<br /><br />Cynicism and hypocrisy are rampant in both the NDP and in Bill's blog.<br /><br />Can't wait for the NDP to blame the Liberals for a mess they create themselves when they are in government with Adrian Dix as Premier.<br /><br />Of course Bill's advertising agency would not be a part of any govermment advertising scheme either, since he's written much on the government tapayer paid for advertising antics of the BC Liberals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61162855553506419432012-03-11T15:28:43.059-07:002012-03-11T15:28:43.059-07:00The NDP (and yes I am a member) supports Telus?
L...The NDP (and yes I am a member) supports Telus?<br /><br />Lovely. The same company that tried to bust its union back in 2005 and shipped thousands of jobs overseas?<br />That Telus?<br /><br />I understand it's political but frankly I am sickened by the cynicism of the issue. And the slap in the face to those Telus workers that lost their jobs.suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74872985823123206732012-03-11T12:31:28.793-07:002012-03-11T12:31:28.793-07:00are you paying attention Christy - you are on your...are you paying attention Christy - you are on your way out.<br /><br />are you paying attention? <br /><br />Blog contributors dislike the MSM alot but go ahead and reference them anyway.<br /><br />Hypocrisy.<br /><br />So what happens when the NDP does something you don't like?<br /><br />Would you say "Adrian you are on your way out"? Not likely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-54881570124486122012012-03-11T10:19:53.162-07:002012-03-11T10:19:53.162-07:00"Stop thinking of Christy as a noble opponent..."Stop thinking of Christy as a noble opponent. She's a slug among slugs.<br /><br />We the citizens already know that. Why point out the obvious?"<br /><br /><br />are you paying attention Christy - you are on your way out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-65112737040228198402012-03-11T09:38:12.837-07:002012-03-11T09:38:12.837-07:00Talk about hypocrisy from blog contributors!
Many...Talk about hypocrisy from blog contributors!<br /><br />Many cried, moaned and wailed about the evil MSM, and their bias and yet here is someone posting something from the Globe and Mail which jokingly referred to itself as "Canada's National Newspaper".<br /><br />Ever consider that the $2 milion in advertising can come from other sources, genius?<br /><br />the support for Telus - a large Corporation of the kind the NDP wants to tax - is on the floor laughable from these blog contributors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-70327695204298368032012-03-11T09:35:25.473-07:002012-03-11T09:35:25.473-07:00Lib MLAs are mostly former low level managers with...Lib MLAs are mostly former low level managers with heavy pull.<br /><br />None are self-made.<br /><br />Bull and shit. Many are self-made.<br /><br />and just how many NDPers are self-made? Shane Simpson? Gary Coons?<br />Harry Lali? <br /><br /><br /> They conmpensate for their lack of administrative skills, by executing peacock "authority" displays.<br /><br />amd where does that leave people like Raj Chouhan? Mable Elmore?<br />Spencer Herbert?<br /><br /><br /><br /> Stop thinking of Christy as a noble opponent. She's a slug among slugs.<br /><br />We the citizens already know that. Why point out the obvious?<br /><br />Let us know who the stars are within the NDP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-80209782824786526022012-03-11T08:21:07.927-07:002012-03-11T08:21:07.927-07:00Can't believe the Liberals rejected Telus'...<i>Can't believe the Liberals rejected Telus's bid to buy the naming rights to B.C. Place.<br /><br />The New Democrats, sure. They'd shun the money, then rebrand the stadium as the National Heroes of Labour Pleasure Centre No. 5, or something like that.<br /><br />But the Liberals? Give them $300, they would let Red Hot Video slap its half-burned-out neon sign over the front doors of the legislature. Them spurning Telus is like Charlie Sheen saying "No, thanks, I'm driving."</i> [...]<br /><br /><i>Maybe Telus, whose total B.C. Place sponsorship package would have hit $40 million, should bid to rename the Liberal party instead.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/Telus+dear+Liberals+what+naming+right/6282906/story.html" rel="nofollow">Jack Knox</a>, The Victoria Times ColonistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-152604528156698422012-03-10T22:49:34.112-08:002012-03-10T22:49:34.112-08:00I’m told the government tried to rescue the deal b...<i>I’m told the government tried to rescue the deal by suggesting the stadium could carry the Telus label, but only if they agreed to keep “B.C. Place” in the name.<br /><br />But there was no way the corporation would go along with a name like “Telus B.C. Place.”<br /><br />Why? Because Telus got burned once before on a similar deal.<br /><br />In 2004, Telus paid $9 million in a naming-rights agreement with Science World, and the famous False Creek geodesic dome was officially renamed “Telus World of Science.”<br /><br />Then guess what happened? Everybody kept calling the tourist attraction “Science World” anyway.<br /><br />I’m told Telus insisted the words “B.C. Place” had to be completely erased in any stadium naming deal, otherwise people would keep calling it that.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.theprovince.com/news/Liberals+exploit+elections+loophole+with+Chilliwack+election+blitz/6283894/story.html" rel="nofollow">Michael Smyth</a>, The ProvinceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10595760525528319572012-03-10T17:15:48.954-08:002012-03-10T17:15:48.954-08:00563 million and counting plus $40 million they fis...563 million and counting plus $40 million they fiscally prudently managed to kiss goodbye, = $603 million. And didn't think to ask if Vancouver City if the Casino would be passed, where was Kevin Krueger when we needed him most.?<br /><br />Yeah right. "we" don't like Liberals, do we??<br /><br />"Gerry Jones built the Dallas cowboys a new stadium for $1.3 billion. "<br /><br />Well good for him. Cowboys did not win the Super Bowl. People spend more time looking at the Cowboys Cheerleader's asses than the game itself. So $1.3 billion to watch<br />jiggle and wiggle.<br /><br />"I'm sure the outrage from the BC business concil, fraser institue, icba, B.C. chamber of commerce et. al. will be coming when the final accounting has been done."<br /><br />Sure. As if left wingers ever supported the Fraser Institute and the BC Chamber of Commerce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-7511575876215563032012-03-10T16:57:42.398-08:002012-03-10T16:57:42.398-08:00$563 million and counting plus $40 million they fi...$563 million and counting plus $40 million they fiscally prudently managed to kiss goodbye, = $603 million. And didn't think to ask if Vancouver City if the Casino would be passed, where was Kevin Krueger when we needed him most.?<br /><br />Gerry Jones built the Dallas cowboys a new stadium for $1.3 billion. <br /><br />I'm sure the outrage from the BC business concil, fraser institue, icba, B.C. chamber of commerce et. al. will be coming when the final accounting has been done.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-56681368453527200092012-03-10T15:37:22.840-08:002012-03-10T15:37:22.840-08:00I’d rename my kids for $2-million a year
As it st...<b>I’d rename my kids for $2-million a year</b><br /><br /><i>As it stands, the refurbished BC Place Stadium with its new roof is in danger of becoming the Liberals’ Fast Ferries – a symbol of government ineptitude and incompetence.<br /><br />For some people it’s already there.<br /><br />For opponents of this government, the new roof has become the go-to answer in any discussion about how wisely the province spends our tax dollars.<br /><br />Ask any teacher how, in these times of restraint, the province could come up with the money to increase wages or limit class sizes and the answer is invariably, “Well, they can afford a half-billion-dollar roof for a sports stadium.”</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/stephen-quinn/bc-place-whats-in-a-name-id-rename-my-kids-for-2-million-a-year/article2365299/" rel="nofollow">Stephen Quinn</a>, Globe and MailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-6881636456060357182012-03-10T12:23:50.422-08:002012-03-10T12:23:50.422-08:00"The $35 million was covered this week when t..."The $35 million was covered this week when the BC Liberals introduced the odious and illegal Bill 22 and forced the teachers to strike."<br /><br />Since when did Bill 22 "force" the teachers to strike? They struck on the basis of 55% of the entire membership (not a 100% turnout). Also why would the teachers receive a 15% wage increase when other public sector unions have not?<br /><br />Bill if passed would set a mediation to end the strikes.<br /><br /><br />What would the NDP do? They legislated the teachers back to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-19972515846922951942012-03-10T07:45:09.610-08:002012-03-10T07:45:09.610-08:00From all appearances, the cancellation of the agre...<b>From all appearances, the cancellation of the agreement to rename BC Place as Telus Park is a costly blunder by Clark's government.</b> - <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/Nixing+Place+deal+looks+like+blunder/6276069/story.html" rel="nofollow">Editorial</a>, The Vancouver Sun<br /><br />---<br /><br /><i>B.C. Pavilion Corp. said Friday it will take legal action against the Vancouver Whitecaps and their sponsor Bell if they do not stop using the term “Bell Pitch” to refer to the soccer field at BC Place Stadium.<br /><br />PavCo chairman David Podmore told The Vancouver Sun the Crown corporation never conferred any naming rights to either the Whitecaps or Bell when it agreed to a 15-year lease with the soccer club.<br /><br />He said PavCo began been sending the club and its sponsor notices to “cease and desist” using the term Bell Pitch from the time the Whitecaps moved into BC Place Stadium</i> <b>last spring</b>. - <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Place+naming+brings+card+Whitecaps+Bell/6280565/story.html" rel="nofollow">Jeff Lee</a>, The Vancouver SunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-20685910269978197492012-03-10T07:33:58.629-08:002012-03-10T07:33:58.629-08:00Vaughn Palmer has a highlights package.
Last spri...<a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/PALMER+With+Place+costs+through+roof+Liberals+drop+ball+them/6281230/story.html" rel="nofollow">Vaughn Palmer</a> has a highlights package.<br /><br /><i>Last spring, the Liberals had assured the legislature that even $20 million for the naming rights “would be a substantial amount of money.” Now, $35 million “did not provide the best value for taxpayers.”<br /><br />Compared to what? one has to ask. But perfectly in keeping with their government’s stumbling, bumbling record on this file.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-81288137733983500202012-03-10T06:58:47.809-08:002012-03-10T06:58:47.809-08:00Its OK folks, no need to eat your hats over this.
...Its OK folks, no need to eat your hats over this.<br />Christy has it covered.<br /><br />The $35 million was covered this week when the BC Liberals introduced the odious and illegal Bill 22 and forced the teachers to strike.<br /><br />Each day of the strike saved the provincial treasury $11 million, and there is one more day of picket action expected next week for a total of $44 million saved.<br /><br />At this rate Clark will have the books balanced by the end of the term and the mainstream press will have forgotten about the cost overruns on the BC Place roof renovation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29601310543994434052012-03-09T17:22:12.984-08:002012-03-09T17:22:12.984-08:00Then, we have Harper permitting China, to buy out ...Then, we have Harper permitting China, to buy out the tar sands. They are bringing their own people, to work their vast tar sands projects, for the crap wages they pay their own people.<br /><br />I remember Fadden, of CSIS warning of China's inroads into Canada. Seems our worst nightmares have come true. They own all the resources and have taken our jobs too.<br /><br />So this relates to the topic, how?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25760293609577180102012-03-09T12:23:13.048-08:002012-03-09T12:23:13.048-08:00Boessenkool and Christy are selling the rest of BC...Boessenkool and Christy are selling the rest of BC's buildings and Real Estate off. The BCR was thieved and sold. Our rivers thieved and sold. Campbell's stupid billion dollars, stupid smart meters, we did not need, nor want. BC hydro ruined. Our BC mills shipped to China, along with our raw logs. China owns BC mines. China is bringing their own miners, for cheap labor costs. <br /><br />The Campbell/Clark BC Liberals and Boessenkool, are leaving the next party, nothing to work with. They are even timing the HST payback, just in time for the next party as well. They will not leave the $40 million, for the next party either. Who knows how many billions of dollars, we are in debt for?<br /><br />Then, we have Harper permitting China, to buy out the tar sands. They are bringing their own people, to work their vast tar sands projects, for the crap wages they pay their own people.<br /><br />I remember Fadden, of CSIS warning of China's inroads into Canada. Seems our worst nightmares have come true. They own all the resources and have taken our jobs too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27560434848485270462012-03-09T07:50:59.175-08:002012-03-09T07:50:59.175-08:00Never forget that the Libs are really an alliance ...Never forget that the Libs are really an alliance framework with former socreds. Kevin Falcon admits support for Harper's right wingers. All the talk about "green" politics falls on most Lib goofs. Lib MLAs are mostly former low level managers with heavy pull. None are self-made. They conmpensate for their lack of administrative skills, by executing peacock "authority" displays. Stop thinking of Christy as a noble opponent. She's a slug among slugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-70418817721085164912012-03-08T21:33:06.733-08:002012-03-08T21:33:06.733-08:00I suspect that Gordon Campbell made a promise to B...I suspect that Gordon Campbell made a promise to Bell, the Whitecaps and the NASL that was in conflict with the deal being negotiated with Telus and when that conflict came to light the losers became Telus and us as taxpayers. El Gordo strikes again!Dreamernoreply@blogger.com