tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post6359806667452295006..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: In defence of Kash Heed on election spending controversy - somewhat that isBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-79671470785988992332011-02-01T19:22:41.993-08:002011-02-01T19:22:41.993-08:00It appears that the east Indian
Candidate and t...It appears that the east Indian <br /> Candidate and the Basi Virk bunch are as corrupt as the Liberals.That's 5 of them ,how many more at the next election?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-75222364522514311982011-02-01T14:50:08.665-08:002011-02-01T14:50:08.665-08:00Due process is required, no matter who is charged....<i>Due process is required, no matter who is charged.</i><br /><br />Bill, "due process" in British Columbia has failed us miserably cf the BC Rail trial for starters....<br /><br />But more to the point, "due process" in the British-derived parliamentary system means that when an elected official, particularly a cabinet minister, is tainted by scandal, either by himself or one of his underlings, he is supposed to resign <i>immediately</i> and not drag things into the court....much less expect the public purse to pick up the tab for same.<br /><br />This man was Solicitor-General, for pity's sake, not just a backbencher. And his election was won, it seems, by slander and by electoral fraud....."due process" means he should just resign his seat, rather than wait for the Chief Electoral Officer to take it from him.<br /><br />In the UK, he'd have to face the Queen and be shamed by her into resigning, if he hadn't already....Skookum1https://www.blogger.com/profile/02454267132163984177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-30550943576378550412011-01-31T22:03:20.464-08:002011-01-31T22:03:20.464-08:00Actually, the link didn't come through. Kash w...Actually, the link didn't come through. Kash will be instructing at SFU this spring - "Introduction to the Criminal Justice System". http://tinyurl.com/4gc4dg7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-19010591701918058072011-01-31T19:07:04.566-08:002011-01-31T19:07:04.566-08:00And now, for something completely ridiculous.
http...And now, for something completely ridiculous.<br />http://www.sfu.ca/criminology/ugrad/courseinfo/documents/CRIM131Skh1111.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-51479909989885515822011-01-31T19:06:35.470-08:002011-01-31T19:06:35.470-08:00Warning - In BC, dozens of people check into psych...Warning - In BC, dozens of people check into psych wards every day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-3351800149017662292011-01-31T10:32:02.019-08:002011-01-31T10:32:02.019-08:00Warning.
World War 3 could begin in 14 days.
htt...Warning. <br />World War 3 could begin in 14 days.<br /><br />http://www.briankieran.com/2011/01/liberals-post-campbell-goal-of-renewal.html<br /><br />Warning - someone is going to check in at a psychiatric ward in 14 days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-33254493320400314012011-01-31T08:14:38.840-08:002011-01-31T08:14:38.840-08:00.
Defund NPR ... ???
..<br />Defund NPR ... ??? <br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-47411360286385225042011-01-31T02:12:40.661-08:002011-01-31T02:12:40.661-08:00Champagne socialist MacPhail toasts the Red Baron ...Champagne socialist MacPhail toasts the Red Baron Dix - Brian Kieran<br /><br />"Joy! Give your head a shake. This is the same guy who – if he ever became premier ... gawd forbid – would hobble the free enterprise economy starting with the extermination of BC’s struggling green power sector. This is the guy who favours state ownership, wants to renew his marriage vows with labour, tax banks and introduce new laws that ensure that “natural resource use is linked to economic justice.” I’m afraid to even ask what that means for resource communities.<br /><br />This is a cruel joke Joy. You should be ashamed.<br /><br />Fortunately, MacPhail’s pet project can be put in context by Ipsos Reid polling that shows that the party’s only moderate, consensus-building candidate, Mike Farnworth, is by far the public’s favourite NDP leadership contender. The poll also shows declining impressions of Dix among past NDP voters.<br /><br />Farnworth received a net score of +28 after negative impressions were subtracted from positive impressions and that placed him well ahead of the competition. Dix received a dismal net score of -6."<br /><br />"This is a party that has just staged a leadership coup that all but destroyed every remaining shred of its shaky credibility. This is a party that is in such a state of internal angst that most of the people interested in leading it are flakes and dissidents.<br /><br />It is a day like this that must give even the most pessimistic Liberal pause to smile."<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><br />Bill Tieleman said:<br /><br />"Gee Brian - sounds like you have a preference in this contest - and a party preference too!"<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><br />Gee Bill - sounds like you're opposed to someone having a preference in this contest - and a party preference too!FYInescunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-51484130442875763412011-01-30T19:32:32.594-08:002011-01-30T19:32:32.594-08:00Warning.
World War 3 could begin in 14 days.
htt...Warning. <br />World War 3 could begin in 14 days.<br /><br />http://www.briankieran.com/2011/01/liberals-post-campbell-goal-of-renewal.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-55633413639073373292011-01-30T05:14:21.790-08:002011-01-30T05:14:21.790-08:00In the good ol days when there was such an outrage...In the good ol days when there was such an outrageous scandal the MLA would step down. Not so with a Liberal MLA. Their modus operandi must be to never, never, ever step down, no matter what. Instead duck, weave, hide, obfuscate and mislead at every opportunity. We have seen it numerous times already and began with the illustrious leader Mr. Himself, Campbell.<br /><br />I cannot respect anyone who does this or who allows this behaviour. In politics you gotta go when it gets to this and defend your good name afterwards.<br /><br />Bill, this defence is weak and I would not support it no matter what party name it is under. That is what is wrong with politics today, no f'ing integrity.islandcynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13520087520417486511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-37126719470649471522011-01-29T19:47:49.694-08:002011-01-29T19:47:49.694-08:00"Thanks to James King for taking a second loo..."<i>Thanks to James King for taking a second look and reversing his original position to agree with me.<br /><br />I reiterate - Kash Heed is a political embarrassment - but he is entitled to defend himself as allowed by the law - as are we all.</i>"<br /><br />All true, but also true is the fact that OVER and OVER the BC liaRs tend to use the court system as a hidey-hole or "time-out" and an excuse to just continue the agenda without the benefit of any accountability ("it's before the courts"). Skookum has a very cogent point about the nowadays quaint idea of ministerial accountability - something that went out with the election of Gordo the Thug.<br /><br />It is just such a typical Liberal ploy to have underlings to take the blame for any wrongdoing, Basi, Virk, John Les' underlings in Chilliwack, and those Wally Oppal and Liberal party approved alleged criminals who managed to scoff the law while working for Mr. Top Cop himself. <br /><br />The days of Harcourt resigning over something he had nothing to do with, or Glen Clark over spurious accusations or Harry Truman saying "the buck stops here" are lost in the mists of time with Camelot. <br /><br />No one is accountable anymore except the little guy - not the bankers who lose other people's money but go hat in hand to the taxpayer to insure the continuation of their obscene bonuses, nor the politicians who never do wrong, only are done wrong by others - like poor Ida Chomp Chomp! <br /><br />But maybe its a good thing for Kash to hang on as long as possible, it does point out how ridiculous is the Liberal Way!kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71357140569122883422011-01-29T01:41:48.751-08:002011-01-29T01:41:48.751-08:00Staged....Distractions....FOCUS!Staged....Distractions....FOCUS!jaydeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13897581398617875658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25242839134041984062011-01-29T01:32:07.483-08:002011-01-29T01:32:07.483-08:00Staged....distractions....FOCUS!Staged....distractions....FOCUS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91799309498674785672011-01-28T22:54:34.869-08:002011-01-28T22:54:34.869-08:00Thanks to James King for taking a second look and ...Thanks to James King for taking a second look and reversing his original position to agree with me.<br /><br />I reiterate - Kash Heed is a political embarrassment - but he is entitled to defend himself as allowed by the law - as are we all.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-49062036902048708122011-01-28T22:52:21.257-08:002011-01-28T22:52:21.257-08:00The stories from Jake's confidential info will...The stories from Jake's confidential info will be forthcoming in February in a multi-part series - thanks for asking.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-86846516639601761952011-01-28T21:04:46.661-08:002011-01-28T21:04:46.661-08:00So what exactly is Heed responsible for in his ele...So what exactly is Heed responsible for in his election? If he is not responsible for something that anyone else has done, then can we in the future expect elections to be a one man show? As far as the courts are concerned, after the BC Rail fiasco, I have no confidence that this can be sorted out by them. Fingers are in pies in BC, IMHO. Everywhere. <br /><br />Heeds' riding stinks and it is so ironic that he is a former topcop. Tell's you what has become of our BC.<br /><br />Stinky...stinky...stinkyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32936662862364964602011-01-28T17:43:58.099-08:002011-01-28T17:43:58.099-08:00So, what happened to the story from Jake?So, what happened to the story from Jake?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-33135387288476321302011-01-28T14:07:29.421-08:002011-01-28T14:07:29.421-08:00Off topic but wanted to point out - No internet, n...Off topic but wanted to point out - No internet, no facebook, no twitter hasn't stopped some people getting their message across. Go Egypt! Now THAT'S how you Recall corrupt politicians. How's your Recall going Bill?Radical Peacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91203641673291662252011-01-28T13:46:58.904-08:002011-01-28T13:46:58.904-08:00Didn't miss it at all - the point simply is th...Didn't miss it at all - the point simply is that the Chief Electoral Officer can rule the seat vacant and order a by election <b>except</b> where a court over-rules him.<br /><br />That's the point about the 'rule' of law' - under our system of governance the rule of law means that the courts decide such issues.<br /><br />As I wrote earlier - Heed has taken legal advice and the courts will now make the final decision as to whether or not he loses his seat.<br /><br />Cheers.James Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72638472680178815312011-01-28T12:27:12.757-08:002011-01-28T12:27:12.757-08:00Everyone thinks they are a friggin' lawyer!Everyone thinks they are a friggin' lawyer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74137006469931998412011-01-28T10:20:48.437-08:002011-01-28T10:20:48.437-08:00I've looked at the legislation and, in my view...I've looked at the legislation and, in my view, Bill is correct.<br /><br />The section(s) in question do permit the intervention of a court.<br /><br />Heed has clearly had legal advice and is acting on it.<br /><br />Which says nothing to the moral issue but, all the same, tends to support Tieleman's interpretation.<br /><br />One may not 'like' that conclusion - but it is unavoidable all the same.<br /><br />That is, after all, the whole point of the 'rule of law'.<br /><br />Obviously missed the part about election spending limits and reporting of financial statements by a set date is compulsory.<br /><br />That too is a point of rule of law.<br /><br />Heed is just wnating the courts to decide he can just get out of it.<br /><br />SInce this would be precedent setting, I doubt that would happen.<br /><br />This is the same law that Adrian Dix and the other NDP MLAs lived by during the past and previous elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-82410171404346908262011-01-28T01:35:10.259-08:002011-01-28T01:35:10.259-08:00This OLD LEFTY says 1) that since the spending rul...This OLD LEFTY says 1) that since the spending rules were broken the seat should be vacated and a byelection called, and<br /> 2) there is a vicarious liability issue here. The apparent overspending was done by his agent, on his behalf. He has to weat it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08075299911867994409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-81875931493960226412011-01-27T18:50:28.204-08:002011-01-27T18:50:28.204-08:00"They can figure out who the guilty parties w..."They can figure out who the guilty parties were at their leisure.<br />If it wasnt his fault he can sue the guilty parties."<br /><br />Dave (and others) are absolutely correct. Heed needs to step down. There is no question the election results are invalid and the first priority should be to the voters of that riding. <br /><br />Heed can assign blame or be blamed on his own damn time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34029436653112098672011-01-27T15:12:22.571-08:002011-01-27T15:12:22.571-08:00He should step down regardless of who did it.
It h...He should step down regardless of who did it.<br />It happened and it was illegal (both the overspending and the leaflet)<br />The voters didnt get a fair process according to the rules. It needs to be done again in a bye-election for the voter's benefit.<br /><br />They can figure out who the guilty parties were at their leisure.<br />If it wasnt his fault he can sue the guilty parties.Dave McPhersonhttp://dmcpherson@cope378.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74653272066287001872011-01-27T15:00:58.611-08:002011-01-27T15:00:58.611-08:00I've looked at the legislation and, in my view...I've looked at the legislation and, in my view, Bill is correct.<br /><br />The section(s) in question do permit the intervention of a court.<br /><br />Heed has clearly had legal advice and is acting on it.<br /><br />Which says nothing to the moral issue but, all the same, tends to support Tieleman's interpretation.<br /><br />One may not 'like' that conclusion - but it is unavoidable all the same.<br /><br />That is, after all, the whole point of the 'rule of law'.James Kingnoreply@blogger.com