tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post4482098591365392018..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: NDP’s next leader of the opposition should be Peggy NashBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-73531398063121024812012-01-29T16:57:45.812-08:002012-01-29T16:57:45.812-08:00"Your only hope is Mulclair. I hope he wins t..."Your only hope is Mulclair. I hope he wins though, that would seal the deal for another majority and resote the natural order of things"<br /><br />No it wouldnm't. In fact it appears that Mulcair is too cheap to contribute $1100 (gets back $506<br />in a tax credit) to the NDP. He allegedly did not make his contribution as did the other NDP MPs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89701223082457738052012-01-28T20:39:24.574-08:002012-01-28T20:39:24.574-08:00Who cares who wins the NDP leadership. They droppe...Who cares who wins the NDP leadership. They dropped the ball with Nicole whatsherface and Bob Rae is by far the face of the official opposition, not her. The NDP will stumble back to third place after its fluke performance after the last election. Nice try lefties.<br /><br />Brian Topp, he's your typical labour loving extreme leftwing nut bar. He would never be PM. Your only hope is Mulclair. I hope he wins though, that would seal the deal for another majority and resote the natural order of things. The Liberals and Conservatives battling over the centre and the extremists with their 15% faithful screaming from union offices and ivory towers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-87325691828038038842012-01-25T14:16:51.960-08:002012-01-25T14:16:51.960-08:00"My choice is not quite decided upon, but let..."My choice is not quite decided upon, but lets remember that the NDP was formed by Labour and the old CCF. And after reading Jack's book I have come to the conclusion that he sure as heck didn't ignore the union relationship, nor did he ignore anyone"<br /><br />Correct history, but parties evolve or they become stagnant. The days of unions perpetually hating their union shop employers are pretty much over. The Labour Party in Britan was far more left wing than the federal NDP in Canada, but they were smart enough to moderate themselves so that ordinary folks who weren't union were interested enough in numbers to give the British Labour Party government.<br /><br />A party can have its basic foundations, but the days of the old CCF are long over. Better to look where you want to drive, rather than continually look in the rear view mirror at what you had passed. <br /><br />The NDP will want to attract the boys and girls at Union Station waiting for the train downtown to their offices, rather than just the boys and girls on Union Street, or living in Union Bay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-18561513379381750372012-01-25T13:39:25.734-08:002012-01-25T13:39:25.734-08:00My choice is not quite decided upon, but lets reme...My choice is not quite decided upon, but lets remember that the NDP was formed by Labour and the old CCF. And after reading Jack's book I have come to the conclusion that he sure as heck didn't ignore the union relationship, nor did he ignore anyoneDPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1334718447534345092012-01-25T11:30:09.447-08:002012-01-25T11:30:09.447-08:00We need someone who is fast on their feet and can ...We need someone who is fast on their feet and can gain the attention of the media and voters<br /><br />So who is "we"? "we" as in the bloggers here? Or "we" the bloggers who are NDP Members??<br /><br />But you are correct. The NDP gets too cozy with labour, which is fine for the proverbial Union Man, and Union Girl, but doesn't do a thing for Joe and Mary Sixpack who have never belonged to a union.<br /><br />Many here complain and squeal about Harper being cozy with Big Business, but the NDP being cozy with Big Labour is also a problem.<br /><br />Brian Topp seems to be what the NDP should have, a current model of what could be best described as Jack Layton and Ed Broadbent blended together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-56712772545701278092012-01-25T01:47:32.822-08:002012-01-25T01:47:32.822-08:00Peggy Nash might be your choice for the leadership...Peggy Nash might be your choice for the leadership but not mine. If she is too aligned with labour it won't help the NDP in the future. Now of course we do remember how Audrey got elected leader, the labour portion of the party backed her. I don't know what it did for her or labour but I do know the NDP did not do well.<br /><br />next we had Alexa Mac. Not much improvement there. <br /><br />Nicole Turmel has been a good interium leader but she has always said she isn't running for the leadership.<br /><br />Jack Layton was the most successful leader since Broadbent. What appealed to people was his personalities and his personal leadership qualities. People trusted both Broadbent and Layton. <br /><br />I recall during one election the polls showed that although people would not vote for Broadbent as P.M. they did consider him the most trusted of the leaders.<br /><br />Topp or Muclair are good candidates. The party needs to elect a leader who can continue to capitalize on the gains Jack Layton made. Peggy isn't going to do that. <br /><br />The party needs to look for the candidate who has the best chance of holding the seats they have and building on them. This should not be all about ideology but about practical politics. <br /><br />When Jack Layton walked in a parade and waved a people, they waved back. He had a way about him that made him hard to dislike. He did a lot of work in Quebec and it paid off. <br /><br />Quebec had tried all the other parties and were willing to give Jack Layton a try. People were elected in Quebec who never thought they would get elected. <br /><br />The NDP needs a leader who can perform in the House of Commons and get his new MPs into shape so they are on top of everything. The NDP needs a leader who can go toe to toe with the Harperits and their negative ad type of politics. We need someone who is fast on their feet and can gain the attention of the media and voters.e.a.f.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-26610803080275166062012-01-24T13:45:23.067-08:002012-01-24T13:45:23.067-08:00In my mind, Peggy is too aligned with the old ways...In my mind, Peggy is too aligned with the old ways of the NDP. All the same old endorsements, but none of the new possibility. Even if she connects internally, she won't do the same in a larger Canadian crowd. <br /><br />She'll do what most women leaders seem to do in this country/party: get their party through a rough time, then be thrown under the bus/decide they don't have the energy after a long fight back. She might be able to hold the old 15-20% of the vote. But she sure won't hold a lot of Jack's gains or grow it from there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-7806965065935001402012-01-24T12:06:16.695-08:002012-01-24T12:06:16.695-08:00But as to your question on the US - Romney will wi...But as to your question on the US - Romney will win the nomination for the Republicans and lose the election to Obama.<br /><br />Correct. <br /><br />Brian Topp will win the NDP leadership. Nash is too aligned to labour, and the NDP needs to moderate its labour influences and become more middle left. There's more traffic on the left lane than there is on the left shoulder. <br /><br />I don't think Kooter has anything to worry about with the United States. If he's that worried, North Platte Nebraska's Democratic Party could use another volunteer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71203473515735969312012-01-24T10:33:42.908-08:002012-01-24T10:33:42.908-08:00Thanks Koot - I travelled forward and backward thr...Thanks Koot - I travelled forward and backward through time to correct my typo!<br /><br />But as to your question on the US - Romney will win the nomination for the Republicans and lose the election to Obama.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-43812141619764853152012-01-24T08:11:21.758-08:002012-01-24T08:11:21.758-08:00Wow Bill, you are truly magical, you can take phot...Wow Bill, you are truly magical, you can take photographs from the future, as evidenced by the photo of yourself and Ms. Nash from December 2012. Perhaps you should let us know who will win the ReThuglican nomination and the General Election in the Excited Snakes next November - publish a photo of whoever's concession speech!kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.com