tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post4093688240096435048..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Basi-Virk - Testimony on secret informer happens Monday with defence, public, media excluded; will venue change?Bill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-11145611942148324072009-12-14T12:53:19.835-08:002009-12-14T12:53:19.835-08:00To Anonymous 6:54
Maybe you should take your clow...To Anonymous 6:54<br /><br />Maybe you should take your clown suit of lol! You have obviously been on another planet when all the dirty tricks with accompanying emails were read into the court record. I suppose even this informant issue and the fact it went to the SCC in Ottawa is some sort of defence delay tactic. <br /><br />Then again I suppose all those emails about blabby deputy ministers were defence shenanigans as well.<br /><br />Get your spin lines ready from PAB, your going to need them when the train leaves the station lol!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91209724674958223832009-12-14T07:00:49.398-08:002009-12-14T07:00:49.398-08:00Maybe the reason that the defense team wants to mo...Maybe the reason that the defense team wants to move to Victoria is because Justice Anne MacKenzie is such a different kind of person from that of Justice Elizabeth Bennett.<br /><br />It sounds like MacKenzie wants to squash the pretrial process in its tracks for fear of it going on for another seven years whereas Bennett saw the light at the end of the tunnel,finally, after seven years.<br /><br />Moving to Victoria, via jury, would almost guarantee that the trial would start...... and a lawsuit afterwards because of the long delay in coming to trial. $$$$$$Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-77903099418069831132009-12-13T16:32:25.670-08:002009-12-13T16:32:25.670-08:00This story is still not on the CBC after 3 days on...This story is still not on the CBC after 3 days on the Globe and Mail website.<br /><br />Not newsworthy to Harper's new news acquisition I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88929186405934567862009-12-13T10:05:04.793-08:002009-12-13T10:05:04.793-08:00Jeez. The Picton trial didn't take this long. ...Jeez. The Picton trial didn't take this long. I'm getting the awful feeling that they are all going to get away with this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29266648669132897022009-12-13T08:58:26.321-08:002009-12-13T08:58:26.321-08:00The corruption is so widespread the courts, the go...The corruption is so widespread the courts, the government, the press, nothing can contain it. The only way to combat it is for the people to have real power.<br /><br />I suggest:<br /><br />Create “Citizen Action Teams” in every community – Downtown East Side, West End, Kitsilano, Pitt Meadows, Terrace, BC...<br /><br />Teams meet to create action plans to advocate for change on local issues – rip offs, local taxes & utility rates, schools, crime, environment, whatever. Teams are not connected to any particular political party, ethnic group, religion, and are not formed to work on one particular cause or issue. Teams are populist. They meet and vote on (using Roberts Rules of Order) what they will advocate for and how they will advocate for it. The team will elect someone to organize meetings and perhaps a sergeant at arms but they do not need to elect a “leader.” They just need to vote on a list of outcomes and the method of accomplishing them.<br /><br />The “Citizen Action Teams” also elect delegates to represent the team at a convention held every two years. At the convention the delegates create a list of action items. Each action item has a desired outcome – lower food prices, lower gas prices, stopping HST, changing legislation, green initiatives, whatever – and a means of achieving it – lobbying, demonstrating, media campaign, whatever. At the convention, delegates form teams to achieve the outcomes decided on at the convention. The teams then go out and try to achieve the outcomes.<br /><br />At the convention level, if a more complex level of organization is required, a corporate model could be adopted. A Board will be elected, and the Board will hire a CEO to organize the teams of delegates in their efforts. The CEO will be working for the Board and the Board will be elected by delegates, so the CEO will not be a “leader.” The CEO’s performance will be judged by his/her success in achieving outcomes, nothing more. I expect this system will be corruptible, but an effort must be made not to create another elite, and to keep the thing as populist as possible. Maybe ripping off a corporate structure focused on results will work. Power, in theory, remains with the diverse populist teams.<br /><br />JamesJames Lewishttp://burningcedar.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-50250106937810821662009-12-12T19:22:25.701-08:002009-12-12T19:22:25.701-08:00Thanks to Anonymous 4:53 pm for the catch on the i...Thanks to Anonymous 4:53 pm for the catch on the insidious spam link. The comment said "Everything comes if a man will only wait" - surely a Basi-Virk statement! - followed by a series of dots - which hid a porno link.<br /><br />The tricky buggers!Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-53062929467767935912009-12-12T18:55:29.783-08:002009-12-12T18:55:29.783-08:00Yes,thanks BT, and for keeping he faith.
I'm o...Yes,thanks BT, and for keeping he faith.<br />I'm okay with the trial moving to Vic. Less conjeston, away from the games. However, I doubt this will be taking place during such a high tourist,media extravaganza spotlight. Then again, maybe gordo wants to play himself, in his blockbuster, ('not made in china),B movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-50388418440149331182009-12-12T17:50:04.260-08:002009-12-12T17:50:04.260-08:00Did you know that the trial judge for Basi/ALR/Vic...Did you know that the trial judge for Basi/ALR/Victoria has some interesting link to what's happening on the BC Rail case.<br /><br />"O'Connor" is often cited... by the Defense, by the Crown, and by the Judge:<br /><br />Wikipedia:<br /><br />"R. v. O'Connor, [1995] 4 S.C.R. 411 is a leading Supreme Court of Canada decision on disclosure of medical records. The Court held that the medical and counselling records of a complainant in a sexual assault case that are held by a third party can be disclosed by order of the judge if they meet <b>two requirements</b>.<br /><br />First, the applicant must establish, without seeing them, that the records are likely to be relevant to the case. Second, the judge must review the records and decide whether to disclose them based on the balancing the right to make full answer and defence, and the right to privacy.<br /><br />The O'Connor involved in the case was Hubert Patrick O'Connor, a disgraced Catholic bishop from British Columbia who was charged with sex crimes in 1991."<br /><br />********************************<br /><br />The O'Connor case came about from Victoria's Supreme Court where Mr. Ernie Quantz was the Assistant deputy attorney-general of British Columbia. Ernie Quantz is now called Judge Quantz, and he's the man in charge of the Basi/ALR trial. <br /><br />Where the Court here is dealing with Basi/Virk/Basi and how "O'Connor" applies to the case, Judge Quantz knows "O'Connor" backwards and forwards.North Van's Grumpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571810726275726952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-21992900388621510662009-12-12T16:53:14.960-08:002009-12-12T16:53:14.960-08:00Hey Bill just to let you know the last post at 3:3...Hey Bill just to let you know the last post at 3:37pm links to what appears to be a Korean? porn/prostitution site.<br /><br />Click on the ................ series of periodsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-12610910533998479272009-12-12T15:37:45.605-08:002009-12-12T15:37:45.605-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-7134081184890232402009-12-12T14:31:13.664-08:002009-12-12T14:31:13.664-08:00This has dragged on for so long that it is seeming...This has dragged on for so long that it is seeming to be a bit of a joke.<br /><br />But at the same time that somehow makes it more frightening.<br /><br />It is a demonstration of power - that is intimidating. <br /><br />Some are above the law. And this particular scandal is just one that is being covered by dedicated people like Bill. If not for a few people this scandal would clearly disappear.<br /><br />Yikes. Thanks Bill for keeping up the good fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29540317867914513322009-12-12T06:53:43.876-08:002009-12-12T06:53:43.876-08:00As to whom is paying the legal bills for Bobby Vir...As to whom is paying the legal bills for Bobby Virk, and possibly David Basi... look no further than ...<br /><br />http://www.bcndpcaucus.ca/files/09FOI/Binder_3_AG_Com_Dev_Tour_S_G/03-09.pdf<br /><br />Pages 1 and 2 Proposed Indemnity<br /><br />Pages 12 and 13 <br /><br />"......hope you will find support and comfort from friends and family during this difficult time."North Van's Grumpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571810726275726952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-46976494532232018442009-12-12T04:49:11.987-08:002009-12-12T04:49:11.987-08:00By moving the Basigate trial over to Victoria the ...By moving the Basigate trial over to Victoria the Campbellite Gang will have effectively eliminated the bulk of the free and honest media from providing in-depth coverage of what will likely be a long and complex case.<br /><br />Media coverage out of Victoria will mostly be in the hands of CanWest/Global's league of Campbell fart-catchers and the one or two Victoria "journalists" who have made a career of NOT COVERING BASIGATE since they were personally too close to the file.<br /><br />The Liberal motto . . .WE ONLY CHEAT WHEN WE CAN'T WIN, certainly comes to the front again.<br /><br />The GREAT SATANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88426129658713360822009-12-12T00:16:56.245-08:002009-12-12T00:16:56.245-08:00more likely a movie than a book....more likely a movie than a book....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-50299347213157678882009-12-11T20:24:19.357-08:002009-12-11T20:24:19.357-08:00as usual, a brief,concise review in the latest sag...as usual, a brief,concise review in the latest saga of the gang of three and all the supporting cast. Thanks Bill.<br />The eventual costs will be huge. Maybe a book or two will surface somedayDPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-25512381292193957092009-12-11T20:18:44.421-08:002009-12-11T20:18:44.421-08:00This non-trial is turning into a real Gong show. ...This non-trial is turning into a real Gong show. Both prosecution AND defense seem to want to talk this case into some sort of mistrial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-4887342781872424502009-12-11T19:51:05.452-08:002009-12-11T19:51:05.452-08:00"....Only Special Prosecutor Bill Berardino a..."....Only Special Prosecutor Bill Berardino and his legal team and Justice Anne MacKenzie will be in the courtroom,......."<br /><br />Nobody recording anything; no one saying "All Rise" as the Judge enters the room. They could be doing this little get together via a Skype Conference call and save the costs of renting the courtroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-56723331760220273092009-12-11T19:41:33.837-08:002009-12-11T19:41:33.837-08:00O.m.g., Bill ...
this change of venue is troubl...O.m.g., Bill ...<br /><br /><br /><br />this change of venue is troubling. I always wondered why they had started the BVB trial in Vancouver ... <br /><br />then they did the A.L.R. pre-trial stuff in Vancouver too ...<br /><br />so it's not like they didn't KNOW that the Accused live and worked in Victoria but that most of the legal teams live in Vancouver ... <br /><br />so what has changed?<br /><br />Will the public never catch a break in this affair? <br />.BC Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16597928683019021273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72042151903335919282009-12-11T19:00:45.655-08:002009-12-11T19:00:45.655-08:00I'm not sure but I believe it would likely req...I'm not sure but I believe it would likely require a new judge if the venue change was to Victoria or somewhere equally distant.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-54380097479327053722009-12-11T18:54:19.270-08:002009-12-11T18:54:19.270-08:00"These allegations made in court are, of cour..."These allegations made in court are, of course, unproven and have not been subject to cross-examination."<br /><br />Thanks for pointing that out Bill. So far every allegation made by the defence has been unproven. These clowns are racking up one hefty legal bill though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-82864489303703914412009-12-11T18:23:45.598-08:002009-12-11T18:23:45.598-08:00Not that uncommon to take the case home so to spea...Not that uncommon to take the case home so to speak, but does that change the presiding judge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-67148221211252944652009-12-11T17:44:07.060-08:002009-12-11T17:44:07.060-08:00What a story, even when we spoke of this on the mo...What a story, even when we spoke of this on the morning of 28/December/2003 I would never have guessed it would still be in pre-trial mode and arguing about change of venues.<br /><br />All that's left is for witnesses to vanish and be found floating headless . . . now in the Gorge Waterway, as opposed to the Fraser River.<br /><br />The GREAT SATANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com