tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post3455271522535324748..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Gordon Campbell has become a political Ex-Premier. When he is no more, who takes over the BC Liberals?Bill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2913985892631919892010-05-24T17:36:10.743-07:002010-05-24T17:36:10.743-07:00It is interesting that Annon7:24 is so out of touc...It is interesting that Annon7:24 is so out of touch in the basement of the Rock Pile in Victoria that 'it' didn't take time to check the map of BC. If 'it' can screw up on a simple fact that from Cranbrook one drives highway 93 to Kalispell IN MONTANA 'its' job could be redundant very quickly. TSK! TSK! Having used that route to spend a long weekend in Great Falls. (Where one can buy Fraser River Salmon from a freezer in the back of a BC licenced pickup truck in season.) By the way BC's royalty take on resources almost equalled that of Alberta until the Campbell government started the trend of giving away assets and tax breaks by the billions to so called 'friends'. BC Hydro, BC Rail, BC Ferries, etc. etc. (The list goes on.) Can you say 'Fraser Institute' trickle-up? If it makes the TAXPAYERS money -BAD..... Privatize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-23280272978271251492010-05-23T09:18:25.018-07:002010-05-23T09:18:25.018-07:00Western Canada separation - much like Quebec separ...Western Canada separation - much like Quebec separation - is an American plot to take over Canada's resources.<br /><br />Campbell certainly seems to support selling off our country to the Americans. I'd hope Tieleman and his fans would oppose it.<br /><br />When asked about this, the premier said: "I never had intergovernmental relations with that idea!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-42344831359076227722010-05-22T19:54:18.934-07:002010-05-22T19:54:18.934-07:00"Interestingly you've left off of your sh..."Interestingly you've left off of your short list of who would be the next contender for Premier, BC Minister of State for Intergovernmental Relations, Naomi Yamamoto."<br /><br />Too new, unknown outside of North Vancouver. She's just a half Minister, not a full one. That Minister of State of hers is too<br />within her comfort zone. A very easy to handle file. She needs something far more challenging to face. Also needs two more terms to be an option for the serious shopper. <br /><br />BC Liberals are too damaged to select a new person such as her.<br /><br />One read of her pamphlet and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52749253883876476412010-05-22T12:44:25.853-07:002010-05-22T12:44:25.853-07:00What's really interesting is the narrow focus ...What's really interesting is the narrow focus that Premier Gordon Campbell continues to portray of what his government is doing, correction, what HE is doing.<br /><br />And then, with a big thanks to the Premier of Saskatchewan there's this, a photo of the Three Premiers, including Ms. Yamamoto who is caught on film strolling alongside:<br /><br />http://premier.gov.sk.ca/adx/aspx/GetScaledMedia.aspx?DocID=716,286,1,Documents&MediaID=684&w=640&h=480<br /><br />For the full information:<br /><br />http://premier.gov.sk.ca/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-13302771977507429132010-05-22T11:01:56.234-07:002010-05-22T11:01:56.234-07:00Basi-Virk, Fish Farms & Dirty Tricks
Let'...<b>Basi-Virk, Fish Farms & Dirty Tricks</b><br /><br />Let's say defence lawyer Kevin McCullough's <a href="http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/BC-Politics/2010/05/21/DirtyTricks/" rel="nofollow">allegation</a> that the first Campbell government paid people $100 each to stage a counter-demonstration against a rally opposing fish farms in November 2003 is factual... <br /><br />Do you think Elections BC should investigate? Is there a 'statute-of-limitations' for such an offence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-89168302082556381542010-05-22T10:30:51.011-07:002010-05-22T10:30:51.011-07:00slightly off the subject but Gordo's hand was ...slightly off the subject but Gordo's hand was in the HST thing as we all know. A real estate company here in the little town of Victoria sent out a nice addition to the T/C showing the prices of some of their listings, and what the HST will do to those listing. Example one bedroom 500 square foot condo, up 15.800. Yep Gordo the HST will be saving us lots of moneyDPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-24746068481311253202010-05-22T08:04:16.533-07:002010-05-22T08:04:16.533-07:00Interestingly you've left off of your short li...Interestingly you've left off of your short list of who would be the next contender for Premier, BC Minister of State for Intergovernmental Relations, Naomi Yamamoto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-10673805400916630962010-05-21T19:07:32.418-07:002010-05-21T19:07:32.418-07:00Campbell is Harper's pet dog. Iggy has been mo...Campbell is Harper's pet dog. Iggy has been mostly quiet, or muzzled. The NDP, are conspicuous by their absence."<br /><br />The NDP should have been running this HST show, but hasn't. The NDP has been abysmal in terms of their efforts to be against the HST. Other than being performing canvassers, the NDP hasn't done much of anything on this file.<br /><br />"So, I think Alberta is right. The western provinces, should separate from the east. The claim is, the west would be 40% better off. The West's tax dollars, would stay in the west. Never again to, suffer the likes of, the dictator Campbell and his henchmen, ever again."<br /><br />You'll have new "dictators", that isn't going to change. <br /><br /> That's the one, that did it for me. Anything, is better than, what we have now. Lies, deceit, broken promises, arrogance, corruption, selling of the peoples assets and, natural resources, convicted felon's."<br /><br />Sure, and going back, stealing from<br />charities, fudgit budget and building ferries that broke down before the warranty expired.<br /><br />"You name it, the BC Liberals have done it. Combine the HST, with the budget, you will see, everything you need to run your home is taxed."<br /><br />Nothing new there. You can even go back to VanderZalm's Property Transfer Tax which was brought in<br />without any public consultation.<br /><br />"Both of those taxes together, is beyond the peoples ability to pay."<br /><br />Doesn't seem to bother those who pay out VAT in Europe. Even Washington State has alot of taxes<br />we don't.<br /><br />But have to go to the NDP to get rid of HST. The BC Liberals aren't going to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-63147893360224087452010-05-21T13:40:51.013-07:002010-05-21T13:40:51.013-07:00Campbell is Harper's pet dog. Iggy has been mo...Campbell is Harper's pet dog. Iggy has been mostly quiet, or muzzled. The NDP, are conspicuous by their absence. So, I think Alberta is right. The western provinces, should separate from the east. The claim is, the west would be 40% better off. The West's tax dollars, would stay in the west. Never again to, suffer the likes of, the dictator Campbell and his henchmen, ever again. That's the one, that did it for me. Anything, is better than, what we have now. Lies, deceit, broken promises, arrogance, corruption, selling of the peoples assets and, natural resources, convicted felon's. You name it, the BC Liberals have done it. Combine the HST, with the budget, you will see, everything you need to run your home is taxed. Both of those taxes together, is beyond the peoples ability to pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1836261772012726692010-05-21T10:32:13.061-07:002010-05-21T10:32:13.061-07:00""Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince Ge...""Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince George - Omineca) fought to protect BC Hydro ... and spoke out again and again against his leader's determination to sell off BC Rail?<br />His information was found to be wrong in regards to BC Hydro being sold off and he violated the basic<br />tenents of Caucus (those same tenents of conduct would also apply to the NDP). What's talked<br />in Caucus, stays in Caucus."<br /><br />Paul Nettleton did not break Caucus confidentially. Campbell said he was going to sell of BC Rail and BC Hydro. That is when he spoke out. He may have said he was against these moves before Campbell went public, but Nettleton only went public after Campbell showed us he lied.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74582641535647092132010-05-21T07:12:39.341-07:002010-05-21T07:12:39.341-07:00If Martyn Brown didn't know about the dirty tr...If Martyn Brown didn't know about the dirty tricks in Victoria on the radio shows then I guess that means the Premier will have take the stand to explain why someone used his phone to call Bobby Virk with a promise, two promises.... KEEP your mouth shut and the BC Liberal Party will take care of you..... DON'T keep your mouth shut and we'll see you in court. Tah Dah!<br /><br />Tape Recordings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-71649974210709948222010-05-20T22:47:14.725-07:002010-05-20T22:47:14.725-07:00"any party willing to fully investigate any o..."any party willing to fully investigate any of the cabals,filthy dealings will get my vote,now there's a good campaign to run on!"<br /><br />Sure nice policy. Waste taxpayer money on what the courts are already doing now. There wouldn't be anything new.<br /><br />In the meantime there's a province to build economically, an education system to fix, health care to strenghen.<br /><br />Sounds like a better idea to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74234333312701111472010-05-20T22:44:47.589-07:002010-05-20T22:44:47.589-07:00"Hey 10:47 am Anonymous the last line of your..."Hey 10:47 am Anonymous the last line of your post is interesting:<br /><br />"He never did when he worked in Clark's office, and won't when the NDP returns."<br /><br />So are you conceding that the NDP will return?"<br /><br />Not conceding anything. The NDP will eventually return to government, the probabilty is there. It's not a matter of if, but rather when. <br /><br />BC has not had any real opposition party that has made it to government since the CCF turned itself into the NDP.<br /><br />All current governments eventually expire. Social Credit did once, the NDP twice, and the BC Liberals are next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-7789784064784831592010-05-20T12:55:38.934-07:002010-05-20T12:55:38.934-07:00any party willing to fully investigate any of the ...any party willing to fully investigate any of the cabals,filthy dealings will get my vote,now there's a good campaign to run on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-52019846134579681792010-05-20T11:36:52.201-07:002010-05-20T11:36:52.201-07:00Hey 10:47 am Anonymous the last line of your post ...Hey 10:47 am Anonymous the last line of your post is interesting:<br /><br />"He never did when he worked in Clark's office, and won't when the NDP returns."<br /><br />So are you conceding that the NDP will return?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-49426493171700345242010-05-20T10:47:22.852-07:002010-05-20T10:47:22.852-07:00"Can't the Public Affairs Bureau do bette..."Can't the Public Affairs Bureau do better than hire writers of low grade pulp fiction?"<br /><br />So who are PAB writers?<br /><br />"How can anyone even suggest that Mr. Nettleton was wrong re: BC Hydro? Major parts of BC Hydro have ALREADY been sold off to corrupt corporations, including Accenture which isn't even allowed to do business with the state of California."<br /><br />BC Hydro still exists. Nettleton<br />was more focused on the entire<br />corporation, not sections of it.<br /><br />"As far as Mr. Nettleton telling secrets out of caucus, perhaps Mr. Nettleton is an individual who considered his primary responsiblity as lying with those who elected him and not some kind of blood oath to the criminal organization known as the Campbell regime."<br /><br />What about the NDP? The same caucus<br />in house rules apply to the NDP Caucus. Has Bill here ever posted<br />the dialog that goes on within the<br />NDP Caucus (in particular what decisions they have made in their<br />angle on issues? Discussions on how they handle the HST issue? Of course not.<br /><br />" I know though that anyone with the willingness to spread LIEberal lies and talking points wouldn't recognize a person with a sense of honour and integrity!"<br /><br />Niether would anyone supporting<br />Nettleton. He's not a political hero, far from it.<br /><br />"Paul Nettleton was one of the few, or the only, LIEberal who actually took his oath of office seriously."<br /><br />When he violated caucus secrecy,<br />he did not.<br /><br />" When the cabinet and caucus are plotting in secret against the public interest, the honest man has a DUTY to blow the whistle. "<br /><br />Strange, never saw that when the NDP was in power and you won't<br />when the NDP returns to power in 2013.<br /><br />Even Bill here will not report in detail as to what goes on in NDP<br />Caucus or an NDP Cabinet meeting.<br /><br />He never did when he worked in Clark's office, and won't when the NDP returns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-23100470161563852972010-05-20T08:55:31.757-07:002010-05-20T08:55:31.757-07:00""Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince Ge..."<i>"Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince George - Omineca) fought to protect BC Hydro ... and spoke out again and again against his leader's determination to sell off BC Rail?"<br /><br />His information was found to be wrong in regards to BC Hydro being sold off and he violated the basic<br />tenents of Caucus (those same tenents of conduct would also apply to the NDP). What's talked<br />in Caucus, stays in Caucus.</i>"<br /><br />Can't the Public Affairs Bureau do better than hire writers of low grade pulp fiction? How can anyone even suggest that Mr. Nettleton was wrong re: BC Hydro? Major parts of BC Hydro have ALREADY been sold off to corrupt corporations, including Accenture which isn't even allowed to do business with the state of California. Thanks to the Robbery of the Rivers scam the rest of BC Hydro is being set up to go bankrupt by being forced to buy high and sell low. Then there will be a rationale to sell what's left off cheap to another "friend" of Gordo and his gang of thieves. <br /><br />Maybe the PAB can't find good help because good people have scruples that wouldn't allow them to work for an organization that would earn the respect of Dr. Goebbels.<br /><br />As far as Mr. Nettleton telling secrets out of caucus, perhaps Mr. Nettleton is an individual who considered his primary responsiblity as lying with those who elected him and not some kind of blood oath to the criminal organization known as the Campbell regime. I know though that anyone with the willingness to spread LIEberal lies and talking points wouldn't recognize a person with a sense of honour and integrity!<br /><br />Paul Nettleton was one of the few, or the only, LIEberal who actually took his oath of office seriously. When the cabinet and caucus are plotting in secret against the public interest, the honest man has a DUTY to blow the whistle. <br /><br />Thank God for the odd honest politician like Mr. Nettleton, God knows they are rare in what passes for politics (that is hard to differentiate from organized crime) today!kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2123633739271535352010-05-20T02:37:01.373-07:002010-05-20T02:37:01.373-07:00Looking for names, a new face, younger, ethnic vot...Looking for names, a new face, younger, ethnic vote getter but with the recent troubles he's out now too, Kash Heed. <br /><br />I see nobody on the current list you could honestly see as premier, when the time comes you know it has to be someone from outside the current list who has not been supporting Campbell's every move for the last decade. I think until Carrol James decides her future Campbell is the Liberal's man for 2013. She stays it's round 3 in 2013.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-59666165130495911802010-05-19T21:51:34.190-07:002010-05-19T21:51:34.190-07:00When you've hit rock bottom like the BCLiberal...When you've hit rock bottom like the BCLiberals have there is one person that still may be stupid enough to take the job:<br /><br />http://politicallyfucked.com/Pics/bush_finger_web_2.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-72636363563602319102010-05-19T20:08:03.987-07:002010-05-19T20:08:03.987-07:00"Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince George -..."Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince George - Omineca) fought to protect BC Hydro ... and spoke out again and again against his leader's determination to sell off BC Rail?"<br /> <br />His information was found to be wrong in regards to BC Hydro being sold off and he violated the basic<br />tenents of Caucus (those same tenents of conduct would also apply to the NDP). What's talked<br />in Caucus, stays in Caucus.<br /><br /><br />"There's also Vicki Huntingdon. Rafe Mair. There's Joy MacPhail. There's Corky Evans. There's Bill Tieleman. "<br /><br />So what's the common denominator?<br /><br />"and many more. But Citizens have work to do. The era is past when we could leave it to a political party to do all the heavy lifting and keep things honest."<br /><br />The last heavy lifting was last<br />November when the third of three<br />PacifiClark Ferries sailed off to Abu Dhabi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-69183411294096574532010-05-19T17:32:33.018-07:002010-05-19T17:32:33.018-07:00There's a man whose name is synonymous with in...There's a man whose name is synonymous with integrity and a longterm concern for the province of B.C. <br /><br />Remember how Paul Nettleton (Prince George - Omineca) fought to protect BC Hydro ... and spoke out again and again against his leader's determination to sell off BC Rail? <br /><br />There's also Vicki Huntingdon. Rafe Mair. There's Joy MacPhail. There's Corky Evans. There's Bill Tieleman. <br /><br />and many more. But Citizens have work to do. The era is past when we could leave it to a political party to do all the heavy lifting and keep things honest.BC Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27066186291902836752010-05-19T16:40:52.920-07:002010-05-19T16:40:52.920-07:00KootCoot
Of course if the NDP serve up the same n...KootCoot<br /><br />Of course if the NDP serve up the same nice, but lame, James, even the Virgin Mary Polak could be even money in a general election, as the ridings in the Fraser Bible Belt aren't going anywhere.<br />===========================<br /><br />Fraser Valley seats in recent years have become more competitive for the NDP, both federally and provincially.<br /><br /><br />The assumption that James is weak is a result of too much time spent listening to BC talk radio and its cast of orally fixated yahoos and outhouse philosophers masquerading as "outspoken mavericks", and all the other wacko detritus of the provincial scene. Someone who's conditioned themselves to accept that kind of thing as "normal" will be inclined to dislike James.<br /><br /><br />Time to go outside for a while.Rod Smelsernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61329455227701067462010-05-19T16:36:29.891-07:002010-05-19T16:36:29.891-07:00I believe the Liberals will want to recruit an out...I believe the Liberals will want to recruit an outsider, someone who is basically a 35 to 50 year old version of Jimmy Pattison. A self-made multi-millionaire, but young enough to be a potent political force.<br /><br /><br />The question is, who would that be? I think I know. But he has a job already at 12th and Cambie. <br /><br /><br />Not that it will be an obstacle once The Tyee's fave poster, "Luke Skywalker", starts to work cashing IOUs and threatening anyone who doesn't go along with a career ending smear campaign.Rod Smelsernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88028513602114181762010-05-19T12:27:17.377-07:002010-05-19T12:27:17.377-07:00You do know how to create an insomniac...thanks Bi...You do know how to create an insomniac...thanks Bill!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849071053436000766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-22179868772468311602010-05-19T10:34:33.545-07:002010-05-19T10:34:33.545-07:00The very thought of Gordo leaving scares the heck ...The very thought of Gordo leaving scares the heck out of me. I believe it wont matter who takes his place at this point.<br />What is scarier would be to fight an election against the Libs with the current NDP leader in place.<br />Ms James I am certain is a wonderful person but I am sorry she is not a leader. Or Premier in waiting.<br />I am sure she can find pressing family problems that require her attention at this time<br />Ragin CanajunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com