tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post2755339691160791849..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Only one way to fight the BC HST - recall BC Liberal MLAs - and plan for it nowBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-90634135932004666422010-09-23T09:53:09.627-07:002010-09-23T09:53:09.627-07:00I would welcome the opportunity to collect signatu...I would welcome the opportunity to collect signatures regarding Bill Barrisoff<br /><br />how do I contact the people responcible ?<br /><br />dennis baker<br /><br />dennisbaker2003@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-2635623909205473972010-03-13T09:19:34.578-08:002010-03-13T09:19:34.578-08:00This is the problem, what can people really do?we ...This is the problem, what can people really do?we work everyday dont have time to fight the effort, we just sign petition and hope for the best.<br /><br />Its obvise nobody wants or can afford to pay for poor goverment managment,they know people cant do enough or anything to stop them.<br /><br />We need to have a voice and have a vote on every bill that goes through the house of commons, we are the goverment of this province but we have no voice we are mute and handcuffed..<br /><br />RONAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-8721715313867149542010-01-22T09:07:12.729-08:002010-01-22T09:07:12.729-08:00Gordon Campbell is a poor leader but not a disgrac...Gordon Campbell is a poor leader but not a disgraced Premier. C'mon Bill you know better than that. VanderZalm was disgraced.<br /><br />But the HST will go ahead (don't like it myself), but face the facts.<br /><br />The NDP was handed an open shot<br />during the election in regards to the HST, but didn't stickhandle it.<br /><br />The NDP could have easily been elected as government, there was an abysmally low voter turnout, but the NDP didn't put any motivation into the voter whatsoever.<br /><br />and why a 50% cut off on "potential<br />MLAS who could be recalled"?? You have to think of the voter turnout<br />in some of those ridings (a 45% share in a riding with a 27% turnout is different than a 50% share in a riding with a 35% turnout).<br /><br />Wouldn't waste the effort or money on trying to recall Campbell. That isn't going to happen. <br /><br />The recall campaign will mean publicity, but as someone mentioned that Liberal MLA that somehow managed to get recalled can run again in the by-election, thereby costing the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.<br /><br />A better idea would be for the NDP to get its collective act together dump James and get a more pragmatic leader in place a year or so before the next election.<br /><br />The only thing this recall campaign idea will do is just generate publicity and give another stage for the perpetual whiners and complainers to act on once the Olympics are over.<br /><br />Online petitions, no-HST Facebook<br />groups mean when it comes down to the basics in regards to recalling an MLA.<br /><br />But it will be interesting to follow this and see really if this action of yours actually turns into something tangible against the BC Liberals.<br /><br />My guess is that it won't.<br /><br />Stick with the better one Bill, the Birk-Vasi trial. You're a star<br />in that one in my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-68221949581137706832010-01-21T22:13:13.036-08:002010-01-21T22:13:13.036-08:00There's only one disgraced premier in this pro...There's only one disgraced premier in this province - the current occupant of the job, Gordon Campbell.<br /><br />You can do what you want - or do nothing - but I want to take action on the HST that will be so devastating to our BC economy.<br /><br />And what www.FightHST.com is doing is a province wide Initiative to try and stop the HST.<br /><br />Recall may well happen in the fall if this fails and the HST is introduced without giving taxpayers any say.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-22780914908738713682010-01-21T13:29:25.157-08:002010-01-21T13:29:25.157-08:00Yeh? Well good luck in getting that recall to happ...Yeh? Well good luck in getting that recall to happen. I'm supportive of the BC Liberal MLA in my riding (not the party), but let's fact facts. These recall campaigns have never worked in BC (only one instance where one came close).<br /><br />Takes a huge amount of effort and organisation to do it right. <br /><br />There was a recall campaign against Gordon Campbell, but the local BC Liberal there tailed the recall petition gatherers, and you'll see the same thing happen again if the local ridings see something of an uprising with this recall. That is assuming that the ridings have anything worth motivating (many BC Liberal ridings are not all that active thanks to the depth of control by their headquarters). <br /><br />and having a disgraced 70 year old former Premier lead this thing? Good luck with that. <br /><br />Sure there will be fist waving and the scowls while the petitions are filled out, but face facts.<br /><br />Many blew the chance. The NDP did not get a huge amount of support because too many were lazy and didn't vote.<br /><br />This recall will mean column inches in the local papers, and a few TV interviews, but not much more.<br /><br />Bill, you're far more interesting when you're covering the Birk-Vasi trial.<br /><br />Me? I'll watch but not participate<br />in this recall effort. <br /><br />Have better things to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-83028075820762986922009-11-28T09:10:26.110-08:002009-11-28T09:10:26.110-08:00I would like to rally against the HST the same wee...I would like to rally against the HST the same week it is introduced into parlament. That is pretty soon. This week in fact. Please organize something its time to hit the streets. Use the facebook group a small portion of the 100,000 plus members would send a message. More would be awesome but we have to take action now and sustain said action until heard.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182251898574869782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-37742517565262495992009-11-15T12:57:31.715-08:002009-11-15T12:57:31.715-08:00What a lot of citizens are going to do is go under...What a lot of citizens are going to do is go underground. Next spring, we are going to start up, hopefully, all I will purchase at a supermarket is, flour, salt, pepper, sugar and coffee. There will also be a barter system set up. Become as self sufficient as you can be. There are going to be, as, I understand, winter greenhouses set up. So that means as well as summer vegies and such at a market gardens, there will be winter market gardens. Some people in a block, are getting together, to rent garden space from farmers, and grow their own vegetables. Buy your eggs, and chicken meat, from a farm. It will surprise you how much you can save. I saw in a store, two scrawny chickens in a package, for $26.89, absolutely an outrage. I would far rather raise my own chickens, my own vegetables, which is much safer than buying vegetables, with food poisoning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-85719459221506099052009-09-20T00:38:15.658-07:002009-09-20T00:38:15.658-07:00I am game for a recall big time. It would be great...I am game for a recall big time. It would be great if one could be implemented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-6872360915788539492009-09-02T06:48:20.402-07:002009-09-02T06:48:20.402-07:00I don't mind HST as long as it only apples to ...I don't mind HST as long as it only apples to goods or services that have already had 12% tax on them and no HST on the rest (then it may not be called HST anymore) or tax on everything on the taxable list but lower the tax rate so that our consumers will end up paying the same amount of tax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-84324079610441672092009-09-01T12:21:27.105-07:002009-09-01T12:21:27.105-07:00Add Shirley Bond to the recall for Prince George, ...Add Shirley Bond to the recall for Prince George, Mount Robson. She was far more vulnerable than Pat BellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-36980461820501480192009-08-29T09:31:12.284-07:002009-08-29T09:31:12.284-07:00why recall when our electoral boundaries are curre...why recall when our electoral boundaries are currently unconstitutional. see third paragraph:<br /><br />http://www.strategicthoughts.com/record2008/2008start.html<br /><br />BC's 2009 election was conducted on the basis of boundaries that would not withstand a court challenge. <br /><br />Don't take my word for it, ask the BC Civil Liberties Association. Scroll down to second article:<br /><br />http://www.bccla.org/Update/Mar08update.htm<br /><br />now that's a hot potato!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1215014106177132822009-08-24T11:00:27.466-07:002009-08-24T11:00:27.466-07:00Mr Tieleman, you are being disingenuous when you s...Mr Tieleman, you are being disingenuous when you state<br /><br />" . . . anything currently taxed with the five per cent GST will get an extra 7 per cent tax added on in July 2010 for a total 12 per cent HST."<br /><br />It is as unprofessional of you to use half-truths and scaremongering tactics to further your agenda as you argue it was of the government to announce the HST without consultation.<br /><br />The true facts are:<br /><br />1) The vast majority of goods and services that are currently subject to a 5% tax (GST) are ALSO currently subject to an additional 7% (PST) tax -- for these goods and services, there will be zero increase in tax.<br /><br />2) A small number of goods and services that are currently subject to a 5% tax (GST) are ALSO currently subject to an additional 8% or higher (PST) tax -- for these goods and services, there will be a reduction in tax.<br /><br />3) A small number of goods and/or services are currently subject to only a 5% (GST) tax, and will now become subject to an increased 12% (HST) tax.<br /><br />4) For a significant number of the goods and services in this category, there are already announced exemptions, rebates, and tax reductions for every consumer, as well as tax credits for "poor" consumers with incomes below certain thresholds.<br /><br />Yes, there will be tax increases (increases in cost to the consumer) on some goods and services, but not nearly as pervasively and to the extent that you are trying to scare people with.<br /><br />I encourage all people to research and determine for themselves impartially the issue and impact of the HST instead of relying on the spin-doctoring of either the government or of Mr Tieleman and other naysayers.Lotar Maurernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-40847052098390142852009-08-22T22:10:08.742-07:002009-08-22T22:10:08.742-07:00Isn't he on his honeymoon?Poor girl eh!she has...Isn't he on his honeymoon?Poor girl eh!she has him to look at,how long will she be able to stand it,is anybodies guess?Let's start a how long can she stand to look at falcon pool!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29971626943483530572009-08-22T08:50:29.423-07:002009-08-22T08:50:29.423-07:00I completely agree with a recall campaign. But wh...I completely agree with a recall campaign. But who to get to lead it?? <br /><br />We need someone who is ideologically driven, tenacious, hates paying taxes and who can target multiple targets. <br /><br />There is only one person for the job. The driving force behind Total Recall ------------- Kevin Falcon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88769382268712859842009-08-15T12:51:20.937-07:002009-08-15T12:51:20.937-07:00anybody know how to get the gordallions that are b...anybody know how to get the gordallions that are being handed out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-91098169472874608872009-08-15T10:53:44.493-07:002009-08-15T10:53:44.493-07:00Norm spector 10 am mnday,Bill I listened to what h...Norm spector 10 am mnday,Bill I listened to what he said and what I heard was more along the lines of the media in general has missed the boat on not only the hst but all the down playing of all the issues regarding this scandal ridden,government,doug walls,john les,collins,coleman,clark,ried,campbell ,plant,and a whole lot more!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-29680918974016522472009-08-14T23:31:38.799-07:002009-08-14T23:31:38.799-07:00"Coquihalla PPP Cancelled"
"On Jul..."<b>Coquihalla PPP Cancelled</b>"<br /><br />"On July 23rd, Gordon Campell announced that while there was a strong business case for the proposal to lease the Coquihalla to the private sector, evident in the 28 expressions of interest received from the private sector, the publics response to the impendening sale of the Coquihalla highway was overwhelmingly negative.<br /><br /><br />“We had a good business plan that made a poor public case,” Campbell said. “It’s time to put that plan behind us and move on – and that’s what we’re going to do.”<br /><br />Mr. Campbell, you're making another poor public case and once again its time to put the HST plan behind the BC Liberals and move on.<br /><br />The only reason YOU want the HST in place is to prove to yourself that you can stay within your Spring Fudget Budget promise of just under $500 million no matter what he consequences that befall middle and low income earners.North Van's Grumpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571810726275726952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-9287308086298838872009-08-14T12:13:13.341-07:002009-08-14T12:13:13.341-07:00Norman Spector said much the same on CKNW at 10 a....Norman Spector said much the same on CKNW at 10 a.m. Monday August 10 with myself and Michael Smyth - and attacked the media even more - for not digging into the HST.<br /><br />Mike and I strongly disagreed - as I do on the idea that the NDP "missed" the HST issue.<br /><br />The government told two friendly business organizations - the New Homebuilders and the Restaurant Association - that it had "no plans" to introduce an HST.<br /><br />Former BC Finance Minister Carole Taylor and Revenue Minister Rick Thorpe both expressly rejected the HST before the May 2009 election.<br /><br />How anyone can suggest the NDP and media "missed" plans to introduce an HST is beyond me.<br /><br />And both Campbell and Hansen have denied it - FOIs will no doubt help tell if that's true but even if it isn't, clearly there was no hint externally and denials to their close supporters.Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-49923695896960864092009-08-14T11:31:56.789-07:002009-08-14T11:31:56.789-07:00Your buddy Norman Spector raised the possibility o...Your buddy Norman Spector raised the possibility of NDP complicity or incompetence on the HST file during last night's Voice of BC program. <br /><br />He said - and I'm paraphrasing - Obviously, Ottawa and Victoria were talking about HST before the provincial election, and the NDP either didn't know, didn't care, or were incompetent for campaigning on *other* issues. <br /><br />Care to comment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-57714482134304298632009-08-14T11:18:18.734-07:002009-08-14T11:18:18.734-07:00BBC News reports...
Britain has imposed direct ru...<b>BBC News reports...</b><br /><br /><i>Britain has imposed direct rule on the Turks and Caicos Islands after an inquiry found evidence of government corruption and incompetence.</i> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8202339.stm" rel="nofollow">BBC News</a><br /><br />Might it be that we don't have to wait for recall? The Queen is our head of state too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-39442911482159214152009-08-14T09:01:52.634-07:002009-08-14T09:01:52.634-07:00Thanks for tackling the HST. I am a City Councillo...Thanks for tackling the HST. I am a City Councillor in Prince George and have started my own petition at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/citycouncillor that I hope you can sign as well!<br /><br /><br /><br />Brian Skakun<br />City Councillor<br />City of Prince George<br />250 961 6585Brian Skakunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05670201763009650111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-23795822958696916232009-08-13T20:28:23.331-07:002009-08-13T20:28:23.331-07:00Christy Clark calls Campbell 'sneaky' on H...Christy Clark calls Campbell 'sneaky' on HST<br />Last Updated: Thursday, August 13, 2009 | 8:03 PM PT CBC News <br />Former B.C. deputy premier Christy Clark contends the Campbell government hid HST plans. (Craig Hodge/Canadian Press)A former provincial deputy premier has sharply criticized B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell over his plans for introducing a harmonized sales tax.<br /><br />Christy Clark told CBC News on Thursday that she thought it was "sneaky" of the Campbell government to announce the HST after the May provincial election.<br /><br />Clark said it seems impossible the tax wasn't contemplated before the spring ballot.<br /><br />"I just don't think it's possible that that could be the case," said Clark, who was appointed deputy premier by Campbell in 2001. She quit provincial politics in 2005.<br /><br />B.C. Finance Minister Colin Hansen has said the HST was not on the Liberals' radar until after the election.<br /><br />Clark said business groups and senior financial officials had recommended a harmonized sales tax for years but the Campbell government said nothing until July.<br /><br />"It was quite clear the government was going to be faced with this decision in March when Ontario adopted it, and they never thought to mention it to the voting public. I mean, it's just sneaky all around and I don't think that sits well with people," Clark said.<br /><br />Clark said she thinks the Campbell government really believes the new tax is good public policy but they didn't adopt it until the federal government came up with money to ease the transition.<br /><br />"The combination of their sense of justice about it and the big bribe from the federal government, I believe that's what persuaded them to do it," Clark said.<br /><br />B.C. would receive $1.6 billion from the federal government under a formula that provides transition funds to provinces that agree to move to a harmonized tax.<br /><br />Clark said there are legitimate arguments for the HST, but the government hasn't been doing a good job of making them.<br /><br />"I think it could come at a very high political cost for them," Clark said.DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-34488040887223463992009-08-13T17:39:21.697-07:002009-08-13T17:39:21.697-07:00Anon 1:16 PM
Oh. I'm an immigrant, but even ...Anon 1:16 PM<br /><br />Oh. I'm an immigrant, but even I know that we have (in Ottawa) a Governor General.<br /><br />And, in British Columbia, we have a Lieutenant Governor.<br /><br />Democracy is wasted on those too ignorant to understand its structures. Anybody think that the Queen's proxy will intervene in a political dispute against Her Majesty's government?<br /><br />Me neither.Otis Krayolanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-84962321787749457942009-08-13T13:59:37.497-07:002009-08-13T13:59:37.497-07:00Anon 8:51 commenting on Anon 1:08 -
"Premier ...Anon 8:51 commenting on Anon 1:08 -<br />"Premier and Dix should be recalled, why Dix?"<br /><br />I think probably all Liberals should be recalled over this HST fiasco but not Dix. He should be recalled for other reasons I won't go into here. I've thought that for a while. Then earlier this week I started thinking about others that should be recalled. Definitely Mike Farnsworth. And Ralston. Heck, even Carole James in the opinion of a lot of NDP people. Actually can anybody give reason why any of the 84 should NOT be recalled? Vicki Huntington deserves to say if for no other reason than she told both Liberal and NDP to stick it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-88707002541063306672009-08-13T13:16:20.109-07:002009-08-13T13:16:20.109-07:00To Otis
I think they meant to say....
Let the Le...To Otis<br /><br />I think they meant to say....<br /><br />Let the Leitenent Govenor General knowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com