tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post1510179582722217092..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Explain BC Liberals addiction to gambling? Simple - follow the money! And the lobbyists!Bill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-50447656411733349102013-11-18T23:33:01.545-08:002013-11-18T23:33:01.545-08:00I am not surprised at all. Sadly our government do...I am not surprised at all. Sadly our government does not care about the people it is supposed to govern. That's the bottom line. I am not opposed to Gambling and it's a luxury and entertainment and nothing more. Once again another debacle from the BC Liberals. Mismangement, arrogance and complete denial or ignorance is really the power behind this throne. It is clear that this government is no longer capable or mature enough to govern this province. The evidence is clear. Mr Campbell and Co do not deserve the job any longer. Recall is fast approaching and by now even some of the backbenchers know that they're days are numbered. Regardless of the outcome these goons have to go.Does that mean that people in West Vancouver, North Vancouver, Shaughnessy, the west side of Vancouver, White Rock and Oak Bay, where there are no <a href="http://www.onlinecasinocanadareviews.com/" rel="nofollow">canadian casinos</a> don't have to pay taxes?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13074688902353661630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-40960704771455816632010-10-08T20:38:25.152-07:002010-10-08T20:38:25.152-07:00I have my doubts that play now is as honest as the...I have my doubts that play now is as honest as the government claims. I think blackjack is fixed to get the dealer to win. I played with the house money and the game actually let me win (to entice me to play for real). I say this because the dealer pulled an extra card AFTER he had beaten me. On another game the dealer stopped pulling cards (surrendered)and let me win. <br />When I did play for real, I was beaten. Also although I deposited $$ during the #100 chip offer, I got nothing. <br />. Why don't they admit that the game is fixed and that the chanced of wining are different than a real casino? I saved my screen shots and I am thinking of sending them to RCMP. I am disappointed as I never expected to be cheated by my own government. If the demo is fixed, so are the games. And if it was fixed but it not now, I don't care. I already lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16487194780483841562010-09-28T11:30:54.578-07:002010-09-28T11:30:54.578-07:00Thanks Anon 11:16 a.m. There is a secure site entr...Thanks Anon 11:16 a.m. There is a secure site entry for PlayNow.com at: <br /><br />https://www.playnow.com/playnow?tab=Casino <br /><br />but you are right that Explorer gives a warning to the regular website URL I gave here.<br /><br />However, that URL does safely lead to a BCLC news release about PlayNow.com - so not to worry.<br /><br />Those who want to lose their money to BCLC can go directly to the link above!Bill Tielemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74224431677929570552010-09-28T11:16:54.640-07:002010-09-28T11:16:54.640-07:00In an article you supplied a link to BC's new ...In an article you supplied a link to BC's new gambling site.<br />I followed that link and the following appeared:<br /><br /><br /><br />This is probably not the site you are looking for!<br />You attempted to reach bclc.com, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as www.bclc.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration on the server or by something more serious. An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version of bclc.com. You should not proceed.<br /> <br />Help me understand<br />When you connect to a secure website, the server hosting that site presents your browser with something called a "certificate" to verify its identity. This certificate contains identity information, such as the address of the website, which is verified by a third party that your computer trusts. By checking that the address in the certificate matches the address of the website, it is possible to verify that you are securely communicating with the website you intended, and not a third party (such as an attacker on your network).<br /><br />In this case, the address listed in the certificate does not match the address of the website your browser tried to go to. One possible reason for this is that your communications are being intercepted by an attacker who is presenting a certificate for a different website, which would cause a mismatch. Another possible reason is that the server is set up to return the same certificate for multiple websites, including the one you are attempting to visit, even though that certificate is not valid for all of those websites. Google Chrome can say for sure that you reached www.bclc.com, but cannot verify that that is the same site as bclc.com which you intended to reach. If you proceed, Chrome will not check for any further name mismatches. In general, it is best not to proceed past this point.<br />******<br />Has this site been compromised?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74886200277179670932010-08-03T19:14:06.870-07:002010-08-03T19:14:06.870-07:00I am so tired of the neocon rhetoric.
"Anyon...I am so tired of the neocon rhetoric.<br /><br />"Anyone that posts anything critical of the neocon agenda is a "whiner" anyone that protests is virtually a "terrorist".<br /><br />Bill, if your going to post these paid wieners could you please at least edit the whiner spammers? Isn't one per post enough?"<br /><br />Agree there. Some of the left wingers are also getting to be whiner spammers. <br /><br />Would like to see discussion on solutions rather than perpetual finger pointing and whining.<br /><br />Where's Mike Harcourt and Farnworth when you need them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-21707104476497496842010-08-02T00:44:29.772-07:002010-08-02T00:44:29.772-07:00I am so tired of the neocon rhetoric.
Anyone that...I am so tired of the neocon rhetoric.<br /><br />Anyone that posts anything critical of the neocon agenda is a "whiner" anyone that protests is virtually a "terrorist".<br /><br />Bill, if your going to post these paid wieners could you please at least edit the whiner spammers? Isn't one per post enough?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-28989575186899040632010-07-31T12:17:23.121-07:002010-07-31T12:17:23.121-07:00I'm not the least bit worried about your ficti...I'm not the least bit worried about your fictional 'character' Boy - I just want to make sure everyone here knows that fictional characters write fiction. And most of what you write is not just 'fiction' it's very BAD Fiction - comic book stuff in fact."<br /><br />Guess this fictional full discloure knows about comic books.<br /><br />Seems to read alot of them. Shows in his wrting.<br /><br />He says he isn't worried but gets into repeating his worres anyway.<br /><br />I haven't seen anything from either this annonymous who full disclosure says is this fictional BC Boy or from full disclosure that had any actual political fact that is actually truth.<br /><br />he should remember that not everyone who is left wing will think the same way as full disclosure does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-70743355612146139942010-07-31T08:26:40.216-07:002010-07-31T08:26:40.216-07:00"Fictional" Is RIGHT!
I'm not the l..."Fictional" Is RIGHT!<br /><br />I'm not the least bit worried about your fictional 'character' Boy - I just want to make sure everyone here knows that fictional characters write fiction. And most of what you write is not just 'fiction' it's very BAD Fiction - comic book stuff in fact.full disclosurenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-32702147435343587962010-07-30T18:56:10.758-07:002010-07-30T18:56:10.758-07:00"The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP ..."The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP AND, he shouldn't be putting forward ANYTHING about obsessions."<br /><br />This so-called "full disclsoure" is BSing once again, and worryng too much about a fictional person.<br /><br />Should get out there and enjoy the long weekend and stop being so miserable.<br /><br />It's a long road to our victory in 2013 for the NDP, Bill<br /><br />Not everyone who is left wing agrees with everyone who is left wing.<br /><br />How about a plug to get your readers active in the NDP? They sure complain alot and should have a better outlet for their frustrations and what better one is there than our NDP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-74299310100142730282010-07-30T17:15:30.757-07:002010-07-30T17:15:30.757-07:00The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP AND, h...The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP AND, he shouldn't be putting forward ANYTHING about obsessions.<br /><br />Don't know and don't care about this BC Boy but I have certainly worked within the NDP. Knew Ole Johnson (son of Ron Johnson). Parents knew Dave Barrett too. <br /><br />What about the poster with the halluncinations, has he worked within the NDP or will he?<br /><br />I'm just glad he's been banned from the Tyee - haven't missed his cut and paste BS one bit.<br /><br />Wouldn't worry about it. The Tyee isn't as good as it used to be with stories that mean anything. Now it's 95% environmental B.S.<br /><br />Hsv yet to see any story from the Tyee that broke news. <br /><br />But Will McMartin is good. SO is Bil but you can read him in 24 Hours while on Glen Clark's Skytrain (M-Line) <br /><br />GWest and a few others that continually whine within the Tyee are mostly BS as much as BC Boy is or was.<br /><br />Best thing is to forget about who actually posts and get busy to start working the volunteer circuit within the NDP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-53662558772220450642010-07-30T15:10:32.362-07:002010-07-30T15:10:32.362-07:00The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP AND, h...The BC Boy won't be working for the NDP AND, he shouldn't be putting forward ANYTHING about obsessions.<br /><br />I'm just glad he's been banned from the Tyee - haven't missed his cut and paste BS one bit.full disclosurenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-30318711225786302992010-07-29T19:45:05.757-07:002010-07-29T19:45:05.757-07:00The Thursday evening news had Coleman doing his th...The Thursday evening news had Coleman doing his thing. won't restart the on line system until it is working correctly, maybe in a week.DPLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61193971446970962572010-07-29T19:02:09.290-07:002010-07-29T19:02:09.290-07:00"I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tr..."I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tricks - no longer welcome at Tyee, he's dragging dead animals to your site now Bill<br /><br />11:47 AM PDT"<br /><br /><br />"I see the BC Boy is increasingly up to his usual tricks and spouting disinformation - no longer welcome at Tyee, he's dragging dead animals to your site now Bill<br /><br />4:53 PM PDT"<br /><br /><br />Somone obviously has an obession with a fictional person that obviously hasn't written aynthing here Bill.<br /><br />Seems this poster is dragging in<br />his own halluncinations.<br /><br />He should divert his energies to working for us in the NDP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-55578128945185789332010-07-29T18:21:38.865-07:002010-07-29T18:21:38.865-07:00- Gordon Campbell: "I want to build an econom...- <b>Gordon Campbell</b>: "I want to build an economy based on winners, not losers, and gambling is always based on losers. The only way government makes money on gambling is because you lose it." (Vancouver Sun, June 2, 1999)<br /><br />- Solicitor General <b>John Les</b>: "There will be no Internet gaming conducted by the B.C. Lottery Corp. - period ... We are not going to entertain Internet gaming."<br />(Hansard, Feb. 21, 2007)<br /><br />- <b>Kevin Krueger</b>: "Women in British Columbia will die because of gambling expansion; that's the prediction of our experts at UBC."<br /><br />"Some 37 percent of the spouses of pathological gamblers abuse their children."<br /><br />"So children may die as a result of gambling expansion, and their blood will be on the heads of the government that expanded gambling and of the MLAs who voted for it."<br /><br />"This is a serious, serious issue."<br />(Hansard, June 12, 1997)<br /><br />- <b>Rich Coleman (2003)</b>: "The highest incidence of problem gambling is in things like Internet gaming -- and those are the things we fight to stamp out.<br /><br />- <b>Rich Coleman (2010)</b>: "[If] those folks are going to gamble online, we'd prefer that they did it as clients of B.C."Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-27957229816906437772010-07-29T16:53:07.682-07:002010-07-29T16:53:07.682-07:00I see the BC Boy is increasingly up to his usual t...I see the BC Boy is increasingly up to his usual tricks and spouting disinformation - no longer welcome at Tyee, he's dragging dead animals to your site now Billfull disclosurenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-41975484526362451452010-07-29T16:03:50.959-07:002010-07-29T16:03:50.959-07:00"I always check this and a handful of other b..."I always check this and a handful of other blogs to find the real new thanks Bill for the great artical I.m so angry"<br /><br />Bill and other blogs present carefully edited stories and one sided opinions. Have yet to see Bill comment about what the NDP party is doing.<br /><br />If the previous poster is angry, then join us in the NDP. Whining and complaining to a blog that is a hobby for someone isn't going to do much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-79379241078081751772010-07-29T13:52:46.625-07:002010-07-29T13:52:46.625-07:00Hypocrisy is almost the topic here, Bill mentions ...Hypocrisy is almost the topic here, Bill mentions it, Anono the Weirdo calls Bill a hyporcrite and so it goes. Maybe some folks (not you Bill) don't know exactly what that word means, except that it has a negative connotation. <br /><br />Well I am putting together a proposal for publishers - I intend to write a brief guidebook/text/manual <i>The Illustrated Guide to Hypocrisy - (or The Campbell Regime in Pictures)</i><br /><br />This is just a rough draft/sketch and by no means a chapter by chapter outline but we could explore hypocrisy by examining <br /><br />1. Gordo's theft of the Liberal Party of BC NAME from the other Gordon over "Family Values!"<br /><br />2. A little moral tale about little Kevie Kreuger and "families being destroyed" illustrated by a picture of him on his cell phone (while driving) taking orders from the Casino operators about the kind of roof THEY required on BC Place<br /><br />3. Pat Bell crowing about the wonders that the BC Liberals have done for forestry in BC - it is pretty extraordinary to kill off that industry in the midst of the biggest building boom/bubble in US History<br /><br />4. The financial wizardry of the BC Rail deal (that was promised not to happen) illustrated by an apparently impossible to find picture of the oversize ONE BILLION dollar cheque<br /><br />5. Your former colleague AGT commending MLA Kootenay East for his graciousness - the same graciousness and outright rascism that keeps getting his cabinet position re-adjusted or eliminated.<br /><br />6. Gordon Campbell as the "greenest" premier/governor in the universe overseeing the mega expansion of fish farms, pushing the Enbridge Pipeline Project, pushing gas exploration in the Peace (to support agriculture, I presume) and putting down more pavement than Flyin' Phil on his best day, as long as it is put where the rich Liberal supporters need it (or is on a bridge where supporters in the valley can pay through the nose to get to and from work)- ramming Ruin of the River projects down locals' throats thanx to Bill 30!<br /><br />7. Having the Strictest anti drinking and driving laws in North America in a Jurisdiction where our own great leader goes to a jurisdiction where it is a misdeameanor to do HIS drinking and driving.<br /><br />I could go on till sometime tomorrow, but I'm sure you get the drift and there is life beyond the intertooobz.kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-50087561470196304042010-07-29T08:07:58.811-07:002010-07-29T08:07:58.811-07:00"Yes, on the matter of gambling (a.k.a. a tax..."Yes, on the matter of gambling (a.k.a. a tax on the poor) an NDP government would be quite conflicted. The NDP wants to help the poor but it also loves to tax. I suspect that its proclivity to tax would win out."<br /><br />THis statement "tax on the poor" is laughable. It is not compulsory for low income people to gamble, and there are many well off people than lower income people that take a spin at the roulette wheel or play cards in the casino.<br /><br />and the fool who made mention of Campbell getting lymched. Let's just vote him out and foret this lunch nonsense shall we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-23535032179042234602010-07-29T07:44:01.779-07:002010-07-29T07:44:01.779-07:00I keep hearing about the ndp being the worst of th...I keep hearing about the ndp being the worst of the two parties because you will just get taxed more... can someone out there please publish a list of all the fee hikes tax grabs we have had in 9 dismal years, my bc med alone has gone up 68% since these crooks came into power Ive had one wage increase of 2% in 2006<br /> I wont even start on my hydro or the damn ferry fares or list off what we DONT have any more for those of us making under 40 grand year the impact has been staggering and yesterdays announcement of "we all love the hst so no need to provide information""... and that wasnt even the headline story in the sun, fire works and white caps... were the headline grabbers and that killer in another country... bloody god awful news reporting<br /> I always check this and a handful of other blogs to find the real new thanks Bill for the great artical I.m so angry.. yeah a far cry from the days of glens sundeckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-57134048317362834272010-07-28T22:37:28.283-07:002010-07-28T22:37:28.283-07:00Yes, on the matter of gambling (a.k.a. a tax on th...Yes, on the matter of gambling (a.k.a. a tax on the poor) an NDP government would be quite conflicted. The NDP wants to help the poor but it also loves to tax. I suspect that its proclivity to tax would win out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-60092627744984342752010-07-28T20:26:18.862-07:002010-07-28T20:26:18.862-07:00What a sad state of affairs BC has become under th...What a sad state of affairs BC has become under this rudderless ship under Captain Campbell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-69360136958920183262010-07-28T19:12:19.954-07:002010-07-28T19:12:19.954-07:00B.C. government cancels HST mail campaign, saying ...<b>B.C. government cancels HST mail campaign, saying reaction to tax better than expected</b><br /><br />by <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/business/government+cancels+mail+campaign+saying+reaction+better+than+expected/3333789/story.html" rel="nofollow">Rob Shaw</a>, Times Colonist<br /><br /><i>Finance Minister Colin Hansen said he pulled the plug on the HST mailer yesterday during a Liberal caucus meeting in Vancouver.<br /><br />“I think the roll out of the HST has been smoother than we had anticipated,” said Hansen.<br /><br />“There were lots of people that felt the mailer was not necessary and others that said they did not want to receive it. There was a sense that sending out the mailer could in fact exacerbate some of the concerns that are out there.”</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-65010847821464986412010-07-28T16:36:24.851-07:002010-07-28T16:36:24.851-07:00Well, I guess when Campbell, put this province in ...Well, I guess when Campbell, put this province in the billions of debt. He would steal your eyes, and then come back for the sockets. He is, in a barrel full of trouble. He is selling his soul for money, gambling on line, casino's, selling BC out to China and the USA. He will do what ever it takes to get money, fair or foul. People thinking, he will resign, not on your nelly. He is desperate to get money, to try and pay the debt down, before he is found out and lynched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-61624820496887513992010-07-28T15:46:24.450-07:002010-07-28T15:46:24.450-07:00"I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tr..."I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tricks - no longer welcome at Tyee, he's dragging dead animals to your site now Bill"<br /><br /><br />Someone is hallucinating once again over nothing.<br /><br />Forget that asshole BC Boy and get busy helping us within the NDP.<br /><br />Reading and whining within Bill's blog about a fictional person isn't going to help get Carole into the Premier's Office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-16389352542797904832010-07-28T11:47:01.411-07:002010-07-28T11:47:01.411-07:00I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tricks -...I see the BC Boy is still up to his usual tricks - no longer welcome at Tyee, he's dragging dead animals to your site now Billfull disclosurenoreply@blogger.com