tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post116295288959390098..comments2023-07-25T02:39:44.615-07:00Comments on Bill Tieleman: Tieleman takes on Spector for using B-Word with Belinda StronachBill Tielemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304971610140279157noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1163442356826397862006-11-13T10:25:00.000-08:002006-11-13T10:25:00.000-08:00Spector says Stronach is a bitch simply because sh...Spector says Stronach is a bitch simply because she broke up with MacKay. He offers nothing to back up his contention. It begs the question, is every woman who breaks up with a man is a bitch in Spector's mind? I wonder how Spector has reacted when women have broken up with him.<BR/><BR/>Spector also blames Stronach for the Tomi marriage breakup. Again he offers nothing to back up his argument. How do we know that the Domis were not already separated? News reports citing Domi's wife indicate he had strayed before. Why doesn't Spector cast dispersions Domi's way? Must it always be the woman's fault - at least in Spector's mind?<BR/><BR/>Monday's comments that Spector is not in politics and "he can say it" make me wonder how he would defend someone making disparaging marks about jews -for instance?<BR/><BR/>Would it be a case of its okay for Spector but not for others? I think Norman has potentially opened a Pandora's Box for all kinds of wingnuts.<BR/><BR/>He says Stronach is a "bitch" simply because she crossed the floor. What words does he use for male Conservatives that crossed the floor or chose to sit as independents? Rumours abounded at the time that Stronach simply beat MacKay to the punch when she crossed.<BR/><BR/>Forget Stronach's action. Lets now consider Spector's actions. As a journalist/columnist one wonders about Spector's disclosure of potential conflicts. I was told by a Liberal I know that after they were elected in 2001, Spector tried very hard for a DM appointment by Campbell.<BR/><BR/>Has Spector disclosed this to CKNW or the Globe and Mail? Have listeners and readers been given the opportunity to consider his criticisms in context of any failure to disclose?<BR/><BR/>I think Spector is an asshole. I'm not in politics - I can say it. It's as simple as that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1163308437155388162006-11-11T21:13:00.000-08:002006-11-11T21:13:00.000-08:00To the previous post, it appears your objection is...To the previous post, it appears your objection is only to using the word "bitch" - and not to the sentiments expressed.<BR/><BR/>To paraphrase Shakespeare "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet".<BR/><BR/>I suggest your issue with the word "bitch" is self-imposed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1163179878926538582006-11-10T09:31:00.000-08:002006-11-10T09:31:00.000-08:00I am completely shocked by the comments here, this...I am completely shocked by the comments here, this is truly not what I expected to encounter: I thought the greater community would thank Tieleman for holding Spector accountable for his name-calling of Belinda Stronach. <BR/>Well, thank you Bill Tieleman for bringing Spector's sexism and ignorance to light. I also appreciate that you pointed out the difference between his personal opinion of her and of her political views. <BR/>We often hold other public figures accountable- sports heroes, musicians, actors, etc- for their role in socializing young people. Often politicians get left out of this, but the truth is the camera is pointed on politicians as well.<BR/>The use of "bitch" as a method of name-calling is certainly proof-positive of gender inequalities in our government. It takes a strong man such as yourself to bring these issues into the spotlight.<BR/>Thank you again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1162971439653395042006-11-07T23:37:00.000-08:002006-11-07T23:37:00.000-08:00You may claim that you are not being "politically ...You may claim that you are not being "politically correct" but you are asking someone (Spector) to only use language that is calculated to provide a minimum of offense to an identifiable group (women). This by definition is "political correctness".<BR/><BR/>Spector's choice of words was poor, but he is entitled to make that choice, and shouldn't be censored for making it.<BR/><BR/>To say that Stronach is an "unpleasant woman" would certainly not have the same effect or carry the same weight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35935973.post-1162969042501311662006-11-07T22:57:00.000-08:002006-11-07T22:57:00.000-08:00What a predictable and lame comment. Someone says...What a predictable and lame comment. Someone says a bad word in public so jump on the politically correct bandwagon and make an issue of it. Boo-hoo. If Spector thinks Stronach is a bitch, so be it, that is his opinion and he is entitled to it, no matter how intellectually challenged and self-revealing as it may be.<BR/><BR/>But all of this crap that it will dissuade women from entering politics is pure BS. There are many good women in politics across this Province and this Country who manage to serve without being called a bitch. They also manage to avoid sleeping with their colleagues and having extra-martial affairs as well.<BR/><BR/>No doubt Tielman you are a left winger, complete with the moral outrage and all else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com